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Old 08-05-2006, 07:31 PM
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There are probably others who can give a better answer about Evo, but this is my opinion...

So, any kibble with high meat content WILL have high protein levels. The reason Raw has lower protein levels is because of the massive amount of moisture... and as we know, kibble contains very very little moisture, the moisture is sucked out of the meat. For instance, I give them dried chicken treats that are 100% chicken breast and have 65% protein! I would never feed this to a growing large breed, because of such high protein levels, but I think it's great for most other dogs. I do feel Evo was primarily designed for people who feed 25-75% Raw, to add to the Raw diet, and I think it's most useful in that situation.

I do understand caution of such high protein & fat, but I don't worry about it with my medium-sized dogs, and they've done great on it. It actually helped my BC slim down.
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^^ I agree...

It also improved my Cocker's health. She slimmed down to an appropriate weight in a healthy way. She gained muscle instead of just losing wieght, her skin and coat also improved. I was cautious before I started feeding EVO, I was a little wary of the high protein %'s as well, but she not only loves it, but is thriving on this food.

I wish I could feed raw - but right now I just can't.
For me, its the next best thing
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The Monsters are thriving on it. They are especially enthralled with the new red meat EVO . . .
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Old 08-05-2006, 09:37 PM
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I can't wait until my EVO RM comes in...! I really hope my brats like it!
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My vet specifically reccomended Evo for Hannah and she LOVES it. She has no adverse reactions and we also do supplement the Evo with raw now too (morning meals are raw and the evening is Evo kibble and canned Innova). I love that what I feed Hannah contains no grains though, and Hannah always ate her food but not as readily as she does with the Evo and the raw. I just think it's personal preference for most people on what they want and don't want their dogs to be eating.
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Has anyone seen a negative effect on behavior due to the high protein?
Nope, I have not noticed any negative effects on behavior or energy due to feeding Evo.
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Has anyone seen a negative effect on behavior due to the high protein?
Behavior issues aren't necessarily linked to a high protein content. A high carb content can also cause issues, but such problems related to diet are fairly rare.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
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My 9 lbs Doxun only eats about a cup a day (give/take), so I'm sure 3+ lbs will last us about a month or so...
A bit off topic, but that looks like an awful lot of EVO for a 9lb dog. My two only get 1 1/2 cup of innova adult a day, and they are 45 and 86lbs!
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Fran is correct there, even a super-active 9 lb Miniature Dachshund would rarely need more than about 3/4 cup a day
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Old 08-06-2006, 04:00 PM
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Ding, ding! I was waiting to see if anyone would metion the protein levels. That's what I was really interested in, but didn't want to bias the replies.

EVO is, what 42% protein? I thought that I'd read somewhere that raw diets are usually 10 - 20%. Why is the EVO so high?
Sorry BostonBanker, I missed this part of your question yesterday.

You can not directly compare the nutrient content of dry food and wet or fresh food because they have a vastly different moisture content. To do that, you have to convert all items to dry matter basis - "mathematically remove" the water content so to speak.

Two examples:

Innova Evo:
Protein 42%, Fat 22%, Fiber 2.5%, Moisture 10%
Converted to DMB (0%) moisture that would be (rounded up):
Protein 46.7%, Fat 24.4%, Fiber 2.8%

A raw, boneless, skinless chicken breast:
Protein 21%, Fat 9%, Fiber 0%, Moisture 70%
Converted to DMB:
Protein 70%, Fat 30%, Fiber 0%
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