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Old 07-26-2006, 01:54 PM
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Hi, I was just wondering what you all thought of the Beneful Prepared Meals. Right now I give my dogs chicken in the morning and dry dog food (Eukenuba) in the evenings. I was thinking of giving them a Beneful prepared meal in the morning instead (just for a change), and I didn't know if the Beneful prepared meals were good or not.

I've been to a natural vet and she wanted me to put them on an all natural diet. (meat, vegetables, fruits and grains) Unfortunately, my regular vet has them on a prescription diet (early stage kidney) with the Eukenuba and I don't know enough about why their kidneys need the prescription food to feel comfortable taking them off it. So, I give chicken in the a.m. and dry food in the p.m.

Anyway, the Beneful prepared meals looks like they have meat, vegetables and grains in each package... What to you think??? Any help / opinions / suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:02 PM
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I wouldn't feed either eukanuba or beneful

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Old 07-26-2006, 02:03 PM
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ok everyone will tell you that Beneful is crap. I dont mind feeding it, I used to feed it and if the new food doesnt work I will continue to feed it.

But to quote other members: Beneful is mostly grain
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:07 PM
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It's not just that it is mostly grain. There are decent foods with decent ingredients that have more grain than protein.

Plus you can get better food that will last you longer and cost less in the long run. Less for the food and less for the medical bills.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:44 PM
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Those commercials for the beneful meals crack my wife and I up. Those little single serving things so expensive, it'd cost us a fortune to keep our dogs fed with them.
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:12 PM
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ive never heard of them, they dont sell ths stuff around me, but I guess for small dogs 1 meal a day its ok but I'd have to feed Lizzie about 10 packets, so that wouldnt work!
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:37 PM
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I don't understand..... Some of you wouldn't even feed the Eukenuba??? My vet perscribed this food for my dogs.... I'm so confused! Is there something you all think I should switch them to that will be good for their early stage kidney problems????
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:39 PM
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Mordy will be able to help you.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:50 PM
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I don't understand..... Some of you wouldn't even feed the Eukenuba??? My vet perscribed this food for my dogs.... I'm so confused! Is there something you all think I should switch them to that will be good for their early stage kidney problems????
Don't worry about it. There is a bit of a militant attitude about food here. I'm sure everyone's heart is in the right place, but they can be a bit intolerant about their position on various brands. The best thing to do is listen to the opinions here and then talk it over with your vet. He/she probably prescribed a brand that not only fit the diet your dogs need, but which he/she figured would be fairly easy for you to find locally. If you're convinced by the arguments here and tell your vet you're willing to go a little out of your way to find a 'better' food, I'm sure he/she would be happy to recommend an appropriate brand.

Then again, I'm a heretic who feeds Iams. I did have an unpleasant experience with Beneful (the kibble form) in that my dog kept vomiting it up.
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:25 PM
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Sadly enough, your average vet isn't very educated in nutrition beyond what they are told by commercial pet food companies, who influence them starting out in vet school already. Vets are highly trained medical professionals, but just like you wouldn't ask a human general practitioner about specifics in nutrition or raising children, veterinarians generally aren't the best source of information about nutrition and training. Add to that the fact that many of them recommend foods they sell themselves, for a tidy profit.

I've run into this myself at my own vet's and discussed nutrition with her, finding out she wasn't even informed about any alternatives to Hill's prescription foods. That's all she knows, so she doesn't recommend anything else. If I didn't know better, one of my cats would have been eating prescription food made from poor quality ingredients for 9 months now, and continue to do so for the rest of his life.

No matter how many people want to ridicule those of us who have done their research and now know better as "militant", fact is that there are alternatives out there that are not made from poor quality ingredients and with the use of various chemical substances. If you look at the ingredients in these foods and do a little research on what they truly are, it becomes very obvious.

The Beneful "Prepared Meals" are made from poor quality ingredients but are marketed with successful ad campaigns. Cute commercials win over crappy ingredients.

Just as an example, let's look at the "Simmered Chicken Medley":

Water sufficient for processing, chicken, wheat gluten, liver, green beans, meat by-products, corn starch-modified, carrots, wild rice, white rice, natural & artificial flavors, salt, dicalcium phosphate, soy flour, potassium chloride, tricalcium phosphate, added color, zinc sulfate, choline chloride, Vitamin E supplement, ferrous sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, manganese sulfate, Vitamin A supplement, niacin, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, Vitamin D-3 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, potassium iodide, folic acid, sodium selenite, biotin

Note that they don't even list the type of animal the "liver" and "meat byproducts" come from? Beef? Pork? Horse? Goat? There's also a higher amount of wheat gluten and corn starch than rice or veggies. What are the artificial flavors, and why would a food made from good quality ingredients need them at all? Chicken, veggies and rice all boiled together are flavorful enough.

Just to compare, here's the ingredient list of a quality product:
Water (sufficient for processing), Chicken, Carrots, Celery, Yellow Squash, Zucchini, Chicken Liver, Green Beans, Green Peas, Pasta, Turkey, Rolled Oats, Barley, Soy Sauce, Dried Kelp, Garlic Powder, Calcium Lactate, Ascorbic Acid, Zinc Gluconate, Di-Calcium Phosphate

Eukanuba and Iams were good quality foods 15 years ago, but things changed drastically when Procter & Gamble bought up the company and turned to lesser quality ingredients to increase their profit margin and turned the Iams line into grocery store quality. Sad, but this is not the only brand this has happened to.

Here's an excellent site about feeding dogs with kidney disease, listing many excellent options.
http://dogaware.com.hosting.domaindi...om/kidney.html

I'll also be happy to answer any questions in that regard, please do feel free to PM me.
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