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Old 07-22-2006, 11:54 AM
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Nopers, we once had an "out of standard" Sheltie bitch that had pricked ears, foxy face and a miscolouring of white up one leg. She EXCELLED at obedience though. Always scored with the top 10 percentile.

always a score of 190+ out of 200.

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What do you mean a 'miscolouring of white up one leg? Is it possible to be penalized for a certain white marking?

And your right about looks dont make brains, I fostered a pregnant bitch once, she was a total mutt and not very cute, but that girl was SMART! I know a couple that owns 2 Afghan Hounds and the older dog is gorgeous, but a total ditz! lol
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:58 PM
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In Shelties, white markings in the "wrong place" are a disqualification. They aren't in Collies though - color is immaterial. But Collies also allow the colored headed whites, while Shelties do not (although they exist!).
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:06 PM
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According to the current AKC standard, DQs are:

Disqualifications:
Heights below or above the desired size range, i.e., 13-16 inches.
Brindle color.

Other faults are listed, but not DQs. The only thing they say about white is that more than 50% is an elimination fault.

http://www.akc.org/breeds/shetland_sheepdog/index.cfm
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:18 PM
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My bad. It's a fault (and really frowned upon from what I've seen and heard), so depending upon how much white, if you fault so severely "to effectively eliminate them from competition", it might as well be a DQ.
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Old 07-22-2006, 08:47 PM
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Its the same for the CKC Red

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Cryptorchidism in adults over 12 months of age. Heights below or above the desired range, i.e., 13-16 inches (33-41 cm.



Brindle colour.
But, you'll RARELY see a Ch titled Sheltie with a big miscolouring up a leg. She had too much white up there. There is such a HUGE Sheltie competition at each show, she had other faults that would never allow her to get a CH against other nicer Shelties. She was a rescue though, so we weren't expecting to "use" her for anything other then obedience
She was placed before in a thought to be loving home, everything checked out, but they were hiding a huge mask. Their kids beat her with newspapers, she was petrified of men - very bad. We took her in, re-trained her, re-socialized her, she was fabulous in the end
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Old 07-22-2006, 09:50 PM
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It is a shame that color has to cause problems in the ring when it's not associated with a health problem. I understand not showing double merles because they are a sign of "weakness", but colored headed whites and white factoring is completely different and is not associated with any health problems. And thankfully color is not an issue in Collies because my dogs have white splotches all over! (And I love it!)
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lol Your lucky!!

Sheltie standards are fairly exact and there is ALWAYS high competition at the shows! lol
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sheltie standards are so precise especially in the UK, the standard is so strict, especially with height.

Its a shame the brindle colour is a disqualification, they make gorgeous dogs, lol
i want to rescue one later on
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:54 AM
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My friend breeds shelties and her pups are 5 months right now and she glues their ears and says they will be permanent. She also glues her 2 year old bitch's ears but her's will never tip properly because the person who bred her didn't glue them properly as a puppy. Another friend of mine has a sheltie who never once had his ears glued until he was eight months old. She glued them for a month and now they are permanently tipped (and LOVELY!).

You'll need a good glue. Both my friends used Speed Sew.
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Old 07-23-2006, 12:10 PM
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I've never found white markings "in the wrong place" to be a problem in shelties. My friend's foundation bitch is white factored as are many of the dogs in her pedigree, and they all have alot of white on them (some are even questionable as to whether or not they have over 50%) and the only dogs in her pedigree that aren't champions are the colour headed whites.

This is she..

This is her father..

Some of the dogs in her pedigree..

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