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Old 08-03-2006, 11:04 PM
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Iodine is critical in the diet, the recommended daily amount is 15 microgram per kilogram of body weight per NRC research. In humans iodine deficiency isn't an issue anymore since the invention of iodized table salt and commercial pet foods are fortified, but when feeding a home prepared diet it's important to supply enough.

"In the wild" predators consume most of their prey, including the thyroid gland, where as much as 75% of the body's iodine is stored. We can't duplicate that in a raw diet unless we feed whole prey that still contains the thyroid and other glands and organs and has not been raised on iodine deficient food itself.

Kelp is a nice way to prevent deficiency because it is a natural food supplement (which is always preferable). Good quality products will tell you how much iodine (and other nutrients) they contain per serving so you can dose properly. For example the kind I'm using right now contains1940 microgram (mcg) of iodine per teaspoon, which means that for 4 weeks worth of food I need to add 2 3/4 teaspoons of kelp.

I'm strictly discussing this in a frame of home prepared diets (cooked or raw), not commercial foods, since those have to meet some standards at the very least, which includes fortification with certain vitamins and minerals.

In regards to supplements, I believe in using natural food sources wherever possible and concentrated single-source supplements manufactured from natural ingredients are second best. Synthetic products are something I recommend staying away from. I do not believe in "general purpose" multivitamin/mineral supplements but rather, as you said, on an ass needed basis. Most products marketed especially for pets are worthless anyway, at least the mainstream ones.

If you want the short overview on the nutrient requirements of adult dogs, have a look here:
http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index....e=requirements

You can learn much more from the new NRC publication on nutrient requirements for dogs and cats, but the book is rather costly:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/030...150217-5297439

The 1985 version is available online for free if you just want to get an idea about the format.
http://darwin.nap.edu/books/0309034965/html
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:25 AM
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Thanks for the links, Mordy. I'll have a good look at them when it's NOT 12:21AM

Also, here's a list of vitamins and minerals present in the components of a raw diet:
http://www.kaossiberians.com/health/Nutrients.pdf
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:54 AM
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Chappy seems to be the one he likes. I don't know exactly which flavour since I am not the one buying the food
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:34 PM
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Thanks for the links, Mordy. I'll have a good look at them when it's NOT 12:21AM

Also, here's a list of vitamins and minerals present in the components of a raw diet:
http://www.kaossiberians.com/health/Nutrients.pdf
You are welcome!

That table in your link is not very useful though, since it doesn't give any amounts of nutrients present in a particular food item. All it does is tell you foods A, B and C contain nutrients X, Y and Z, but not how much per weight unit.

At the very least I'd want someone to be able to see at a glance which food items are low or high in certain nutrients so they can balance them against each other.
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Old 08-05-2006, 01:58 AM
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Thought I'd share a video with you guys.... Showing you how and what stogie eats.

This video is in .mp4 format, its about 1.4mb in size, was taken and edited on my Nokia N90 cell phone. I added some simple text, transistion wipe, and a sound track

http://cigar.textamerica.com/?r=5178898

Other video's of Stogie and other stuff can be seen on my Moblog at cigar.textamerica.com
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