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Old 03-11-2005, 08:28 AM
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I agree. Declan is cool! I want to see more pictures of him.

I had a dobie that would just follow and STARE like a little border collie when someone he didn't know was in the yard (like the meter man). I found this to be much more effective than a bark. It was just unsettling.
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Old 03-11-2005, 09:05 AM
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Declan sounds like a neat dog! Bimmer does that low rumble thing too - right before he goes for something. He seems to do it just to let me know he's going and to get the girls going. Kharma goes with him and Shiva stays and guards me. They may or may not bark according to what they are after. Sometimes they just prefer to sneak up quietly and 'handle' the problem . . .
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Old 03-11-2005, 10:11 AM
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Thank you first of all for your feedback and have taken on board all that has been said. It was not my intention to generalize but I do feel a slightly blinkered view is being taken. So let me clarify and say that I have indeed had the privilege of owning three German Sheppard’s one at a time of course and over a period of some twenty seven years. So for the record, have to say that I found them challenging, very rewarding and sometimes extremely hard work.

I think that Sometimes owners of such animals fail to realize that a general interest in a particular animal is not enough, and that merely purchasing and placing the animal within a fenced off area and leaving it to graze like a farmyard animal is not likely to suffice and will undoubtedly cause the animal to find other antisocial ways of fighting the intense tedium.

Sorry to say there are many people out there that like the label “dog lover” but are merely dog owners that fraudulently purchase the said status.

As far as posting a point of view on this forum as opposed to another, I felt that its combined knowledge and experience of such issues would be more useful to the problem than just idle name calling.

I cannot say much about “It is an honor to share your couch with 4 dogs and a pig.”

OK, each to his own I suppose.
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Old 03-11-2005, 10:28 AM
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Blutak, welcome to the board. Nobody here is name calling. You did come accross as offensive in the first place, without even knowing anything about you.

Stick around and get to know everyone. I'm sure you will find we're all a great bunch
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:36 PM
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I think that Sometimes owners of such animals fail to realize that a general interest in a particular animal is not enough, and that merely purchasing and placing the animal within a fenced off area and leaving it to graze like a farmyard animal is not likely to suffice and will undoubtedly cause the animal to find other antisocial ways of fighting the intense tedium.
I don't think you'll find anyone here who disagrees. Neglect is rampant in dog owners all over the world. But they say you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I know better than most how an owner's good intentions can turn over time into disinterest and eventually into neglect. But yelling at them won't change their behavior any more than it would their dog's. An honest conversation about the emotional and cognitive capacity of animals does more to develop a person's compassion and empathy than slinging insults at them. Positive reinforcement training isn't just for animals....

I think if you stick around, you'll come to realize that you're preaching to the choir. You might consider that your first post was not a necessarily productive way to introduce yourself to the board. You do seem like an intelligent person, and I can testify that these boards are filled with other intelligent people that have valid ideas and opinions and are entirely worth an enjoyable discussion.
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Old 03-11-2005, 08:59 PM
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Like i said.before...have you talked with them yet? I just took DID it AGAIN home for the third time this week. It is dark, and the dog is black...for once i got to talk to the man of the house. He is frustrated about the kids letting the dog out (if you haven't read the post is is further along this part of the forum), he is just overloaded. It took a few minutes for him to get that i wasn't critizing.at least not outloud .i was worried about her and my dogs and that is the truth. Anyway now he knows i am not just the mean lady that sent his dog to the pound..now maybe we can make some progress. this particular neighbor and his dog are a huge problem in the neighborhood. The dog bites other dogs and likes to sit on my porch. THe dog is a good dog, just needs lots of work. Maybe i can help someway in figuring out how to get her to stay home.
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:38 PM
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Thanks again for the feedback and am heartened by the general understanding and advice given considering the complexity of the present situation. On the surface the solution seems so simple, just have a quite word in the owners ear and they will see the error of their ways and we all go down to the pub for a drink, maybe if we lived in fluffy bunny rabbit land this tactic might work, but I fear in the real world it may be slightly different.

Most grateful for the intelligent person label although intelligence is no guarantee of flawless reasoning, even Einstein was known to have been fooled by the most elementary of card tricks.

Mans inhumanity to man is one thing but sometimes mans inhumanity to animals beggars belief, passion and emotion can get the better of reason and even if one’s approach seems slightly out of tune with the rest of the orchestra I hope you feel it’s no less valid.
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:37 AM
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maybe it is fuzzy bunny..but it works more than you realize, if you have tact and show some respect in how you approach things. If it doen'st work, then you have the right to take the next step in calling the city ordinance..or whom ever is in charge of such things. I am sure the police or humane society all ready overworked and underpaid would appriciate us acting like civil human beings too. Fact is if you want everyone to live as you do..you belong in a neighborhood association where you have "control" over how those around you conduct themselves. I find those neighborhoods to be sterile in many ways..i would rather live where i do, barking dog or no. I am a very light sleeper too. When i took the dog home the man said "DO you take everyone's dog home..and i thought to myself..not only thier dogs..but their small children too. " That is what a good neighbor would do. i was always taught the basic law of chain of command..and that is to work the problem out with the person first. People sometimes can suprise you in a good way..if you assume they wont, you'll never find out.
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Old 03-13-2005, 01:32 AM
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I agree Smkie. Too many people don't try to change things because they assume nothing will come of it. How will you know if you never try? I, for one, have been pleasantly surprised many times at how easy it has been to change something just by breaking the ice and getting things out in the open. As you said, it must be done in a tactful and respectful manner.
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