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Old 06-18-2006, 05:27 PM
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I have had two airedales a male and a female. Of the terriers, I think they are a little more laid back than the smaller ones. They can be terrors as puppys, they are very playful and inquisitive, and too smart sometimes. lol But they are excellent with children and are very good watchdogs. I got mine when my son was almost two. But, the main problem I had with mine, was dog aggression, as with most terriers. Once they are confronted, they don't want to back down.

If you socialize, take the dog to obedience classes and give it lots of love and attention it will be a very nice dog to own. But, they do require lots of grooming at the groomer.

They are very protective, one day my son decided he was running away from home and going to live with his Nanny, he was 5. She only lived a few houses down from us but there was a large field between the houses. Nelson stayed with Todd the entire time. He did not leave his side, and stayed with him at his Nanny's until Todd decided he wanted to live back home. lol I went and got both of them. He was big enough to scare people with his looks, and had a loud bark. Most strangers were afraid of him because of that.

Personally I think it would be a very good dog for a first time dog owner. Just make sure you teach the kids respect for the dog, and vice versa. And be prepared for lack of sleep while housebreaking.

I think Gempress had some very good advice.

To me, I think a terrier is the best dog to start with if you plan on going into the true guardian breeds later. They are tenacious, but a good controllable size to start with.

You don't need a trained guard dog to start with. I think you on the right track.

Good luck, and keep us posted. We are here to help.

And just to set the record straight, the majority of the true guardian breeds are very good with Children. I am talking their protective instinct is bred into them, they are not trained to be protective. There is a difference, I would never recommend one for a first time dog owner.
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Old 06-18-2006, 07:54 PM
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If you have a dog trained like that, you can't leave them alone with your girls ever.
I agree with Jenn, dogs properly trained and have stable temperaments are very dependable. I would feel safer leaving my child with a Sch III dog than a pet. Sch and PP dogs can be turned on and off like a light switch.
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Old 06-18-2006, 10:43 PM
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I'm sorry, I meant a dog that was trained to be aggressive. A properly trained dog would be fine, I'm sure. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry Please, please forget I said that!

I was just getting at the fact that maybe having a dog that would alert you to intruders or whatever might be more desirable to this particular person, a first time dog owner.
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Old 06-18-2006, 11:21 PM
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I would consider the family dog first... large and a great family dog..... My Golden wouldn't hurt a flea , but barks at any strange sound....I'd rather have an alarm than a killer. A Lab is the same....it's the bark...not the color .
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:47 AM
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chinese shar-pei's were bred for guarding so thats what their naturally good for!
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:24 AM
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Chesapeake Bay Retrievers are wonderful family dogs, yet are also fierce protectors. Unlike the other retrievers, Chesapeakes were bred to hunt with the solitary hunter. When the hunt was over, these dogs were expected to guard the daily catch. The dog that developed from these early demands is driven, intelligent, protective, and active. Chesapeakes feel a strong sense of responsibility to protect their owner's property - the yard, the house, the car, the children, the cats, the houseguests. Chesapeakes are also extremely loyal, affectionate, and clownish. Both of mine are wonderful with children, but wary and aloof with strangers.

Experienced owners and owners who have a strong commitment to training and exercising the dog do better with a Chesapeake. They are a breed that should be contained, due their protective nature. Chesapeakes must be socialized with kinds of people, animals, and situations from a young age. Dogs without socialization are often the fearful or suspicious and may end up on the aggressive side.
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Old 06-19-2006, 08:46 PM
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Hi Gamba,

I sympathise with you tremendously as this happened to me 18 months ago and I can therefore fully understand you emotions. For me the answer was simple and I went ahead and now have 2 fila brasileiro dogs to protect my family. But a dog is by no means the answer to everyones problem of this nature.
Firstly living in the western world you will have many legal issues if your dog rips a burglar to shreds and also your animal will most likely be sent for destruction. I do not have this problem living in south america.
The dog will need to be loved and to be a member of the family in order to be effective. If you did not want a dog before the burglary you really should think long and hard before geeting one now.
The animal will need to be trained and socialized and an animal that could tear someone to shreds will be a guardian breed which will again require an experienced owner so as to avoid a complete and utter disaster. Really, a guardian breed with no experience is a huge mistake period.
Another thing to consider is that most dogs, whether owners want to believe it or not, will not attack. I am serious, most dogs will not attack when faced with an aggressive intruder and any intruder who persists in gaining entry to your house when they hear a dog bark is an aggressive intruder. Specialised training is neccessary to ensure that your animal will attack and that is expensive and time consuming as well as a huge responsibility. Also to be considered is that your dog will itself be a child until the age of approximately 18 months and will be relatively useless untill such an age and after training.
Anyway, if you are serious about getting a dog as a family member and beloved pet who can be a personal burglar alarm the breeds that I would reccomend to be with children are: a game bred american pit bull terrier from a reputable breeder ($$$ and will not attack humans but looks formidable) an English staffordshire bull terrier (known as the childrens guardian in England) a boxer which is a great watch dog while being great with kids, a labrador and to is a lesser extent given the experience issues a GSD.
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:22 PM
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Another thing to consider is that most dogs, whether owners want to believe it or not, will not attack. I am serious, most dogs will not attack when faced with an aggressive intruder and any intruder who persists in gaining entry to your house when they hear a dog bark is an aggressive intruder. Specialised training is neccessary to ensure that your animal will attack and that is expensive and time consuming as well as a huge responsibility. Also to be considered is that your dog will itself be a child until the age of approximately 18 months and will be relatively useless untill such an age and after training.
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Anyway, if you are serious about getting a dog as a family member and beloved pet who can be a personal burglar alarm the breeds that I would reccomend to be with children are: a game bred american pit bull terrier from a reputable breeder ($$$ and will not attack humans but looks formidable) an English staffordshire bull terrier (known as the childrens guardian in England) a boxer which is a great watch dog while being great with kids, a labrador and to is a lesser extent given the experience issues a GSD.
An APBT make terrible guard dogs ESPECIALLY ones from reputable breeders. They are not bred for human agression. The pits you see out there attacking are poorly bred ones or are ones who have been victims of these wanna be thugs.
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Old 06-20-2006, 02:22 AM
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a game bred american pit bull terrier from a reputable breeder ($$$ and will not attack humans but looks formidable)
The poster said that an APBT will not attack humans. I think they were implying that the LOOK of an APBT would be enough to deter a lot of burglars even though the pit would probably only lick them to death. Definitely not a breed for just anyone. I'd do a lot of reseach before getting a pit bull. The breed deserves very responsible and well informed owners. You'd also have to check in on your city's stand on BSL if you think about getting any bully breed.
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Old 06-20-2006, 03:14 AM
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just in responce to the person who said pits will not attack its not always true i have 2 that yall know me are raised as pets arent ever trained to attack or anything but if someone were to lay a hand on me or enter my house without permission they would attack not tear you to shreds but hold the ankles or something but they are also NOT NOT NOTa breed for a first time owner. Why dont you check your local pound i got my hound mix there and hes got a bark that would keep anyone at bay and if that doesnt work he will hurt you at last resort. But puppys take ALOT of work if you arnt dedicated and dont have alot of time i would not get one.
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