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Old 07-06-2014, 12:09 PM
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Another thought is maybe they were SDs in training. The last I knew, until they are certified, they aren't supposed to be treated like a SD, but most people don't know that.
There's no SD certification, and in many states SDIT's (SD in Training) have equal rights to SD's.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:07 PM
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Sorry but I expect SD dogs to be better trained and socialized than the average pet.
Barking should not be allowed in public places,for the confort of other people.
If an SD is allowed everywhere then he should be bombproof.
If they arent,then they shouldnt be SD dogs.
SDIT is,again,different as they are learning their job but if they are SDIT,they should wear the vest.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:14 PM
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Sorry but I expect SD dogs to be better trained and socialized than the average pet.
Barking should not be allowed in public places,for the confort of other people.
If an SD is allowed everywhere then he should be bombproof.
If they arent,then they shouldnt be SD dogs.
SDIT is,again,different as they are learning their job but if they are SDIT,they should wear the vest.
They don't have a vest for SDIT's. They have a tag, as in a collar tag. I have one for Priscilla.

But it sounds like your dogs never make mistakes or have bad days. Must be nice.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:29 PM
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They don't have a vest for SDIT's. They have a tag, as in a collar tag. I have one for Priscilla.

But it sounds like your dogs never make mistakes or have bad days. Must be nice.
Arent you touchy!.
In Fr,they wear vests.

Please do tell me where I said that my dogs were perfect?.

And yes,I DO expect SD dogs to be trained and behave propally,in public or they shouldn't be doing that job.
If they cant behave,then,they are just simple pets,like mine!.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:32 PM
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Arent you touchy!.
In Fr,they wear vests.

Please do tell me where I said that my dogs were perfect?.

And yes,I DO expect SD dogs to be trained and behave propally,in public or they shouldn't be doing that job.
If they cant behave,then,they are just simple pets,like mine!.
You say that they have to behave properly in public 100% of the time. By that definition, there is no such thing as a Service Dog.
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I have seen SDiT vests on dogs in the USA?
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I have seen SDiT vests on dogs in the USA?
It's not a legal requirement though. Some people put it on voluntarily.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:38 PM
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Dont agree!.
I've seen many SD working whether in the US or FR and they were perfectly behaved and quiet,on the leash while working.
If startled,some would bark but would stop as soon as owner told them,to so yes,i do expect it,from them.
Now,take off their working gear and they were happy,playful,jumpy,barky dogs.
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Dont agree!.
I've seen many SD working whether in the US or FR and they were perfectly behaved and quiet,on the leash while working.
If startled,some would bark but would stop as soon as owner told them,to so yes,i do expect it,from them.
Now,take off their working gear and they were happy,playful,jumpy,barky dogs.
Yes, I'm sure you saw a bunch of SD's on their good days, which is the majority of their days. That doesn't mean they never have off days. And since you're not with them 24/7, you have no way of knowing. You are, quite frankly, the only person I've ever heard claim that SD's are perfect 100% of the time. Not even the best SD organizations claim that.

And you know what? That's okay. Hearing aids break down. Walking sticks crack. Glasses get lost. Medicine doesn't quite mix right with something you ate or drank, or your body is more immune than normal. Wheelchairs break. Crutches break. All these things are normal, no tool works 100% of the time and there's nothing wrong with that.

One time my hearing aid broke, and was making a really high pitched noise that was a nuisance to everyone around me. But people were too polite to tell me since I couldn't hear it. Guess since it wore out, it wasn't really a hearing aid?
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:55 PM
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Were the dogs vested?

Steve is certainly not perfect. He has moments. Last week at therapy he alarm-barked at the client before me. It was embarrassing, but what can you do?

It doesn't change that he's a service dog, though. He is still trained to perform tasks that make it possible for me to function in the world. That is technically all that is required.
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