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Old 06-15-2014, 09:54 PM
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Women/girls are just as judgmental when it comes to looks - and usually the difference is that they will judge other women, too (regardless of sexual orientation).

I'm an average looking girl and I feel that I'm treated very kindly by strangers, never any worse than my attractive friends. That said, I find the area that I love in very friendly and everyone (including me) will nod, smile, and say "hi" to strangers we pass by. I open doors for strangers, they do the same for me, and I always strike up friendly conversation with people I encounter every day. I think that personality and attitude have a lot with how you are perceived and treated, and that's an impression that will usually last just as long (if not longer) as physical appearances.

Now, I do believe that those society deem attractive are treated better overall than those perceived as unattractive or "ugly". I know a lot of people in the online fitness and weight loss groups I know have said that they were treated a lot more nicely after they lost a substantial amount of weight, and that the difference was shocking to them. I also have heard that women are treated better than men (or at least more courteously) by strangers.



Okay, I have to address this because... what?!

So when I've applied a full face and choose to wear my sheer top with short shorts (because for girls, there is no other length of shorts), I'm imaginary? Fake? How does one become this superior "real girl", because I've never seen it that way?

Do men not see girls who wear makeup as real? I mean, I choose my makeup and my clothes based on what I like... but should that make men and "real women" hate me?
I think you are misinterpreting what I said. I think you know what someone means when they say "revealing" clothing and "tons" of makeup.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:59 PM
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I think you are misinterpreting what I said. I think you know what someone means when they say "revealing" clothing and "tons" of makeup.
I sure have no idea what you mean. What is the line that's crossed in clothes/make up to turn someone 'fake'?
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:12 PM
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I sure have no idea what you mean. What is the line that's crossed in clothes/make up to turn someone 'fake'?
Less is not always more when it comes to clothes, those women who think they have to wear super revealing clothes to get attention, I am not talking about "cute" or "sheer" clothing, nor am I talking about a "full face" either, we have all been to clubs, we have seen women dressed like this. I kind of feel foe them because they will get male attention, but it's the wrong kind of attention, the right outfit will get you less looks, but those look you do get have a better chance of being the right ones,
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:39 PM
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I personally feel that women are more to judge then men. But that's just myself.

I'm still in high school,& people who are more "attractive", tend to have bigger amount of friends, aren't judged as much,& are generally treat better. But there are people in my school who are treat everyone fairly,& have a good amount.The way you act & dress makes difference in HS. There are groups of people who hang out together,& it's (usually) based on how you act, or how you dress.

It happens in other parts of society too. Society as whole tends to treat "attractive" people, better then "unattractive" people. At work, in the store, at restaurants, & other places.

What I've noticed is that the older people get, the less they are to judge.

I personally don't find myself attractive. I don't get much comments that I look nice, about my hair from people my age. I look really young, compared to my real age. I've had many people think I was 13. But, many people my age are nice to me, regardless of how I look. As for out in public? I really don't notice anything.

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This is extremely judgemental and honestly sad. If you don't actually know these women you have no clue who they are, their intentions or how they are treated by men in their lives.
I agree.
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:48 PM
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Less is not always more when it comes to clothes, those women who think they have to wear super revealing clothes to get attention, I am not talking about "cute" or "sheer" clothing, nor am I talking about a "full face" either, we have all been to clubs, we have seen women dressed like this. I kind of feel foe them because they will get male attention, but it's the wrong kind of attention, the right outfit will get you less looks, but those look you do get have a better chance of being the right ones,
This is extremely judgemental and honestly sad. If you don't actually know these women you have no clue who they are, their intentions or how they are treated by men in their lives.
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:28 AM
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Okay, so, uh, my turn.

Part One: Am I treated different because I am "good looking"?

I'm downright gorgeous, in my opinion. I dress down (sweats and baggy t-shirt). I dress up. I dress skimpy. I dress conservatively. My daily work shoes are 3 inch wedges. Or sneakers. I wear a full face of make up. I wear no make up. I wear concealer and mascara. I have bright red, high-maintenance hair. And I let it look faded and washed out when I don't care for the upkeep. But regardless of all of that, I'm still good looking. I am still beautiful.

And I am absolutely treated differently. No questioning it. My co-workers, my employers, the people who interview me, my peers, my customers, people who look at my college record. Because I'm pretty. Not because I am intelligent. Not because I'm clever. And certainly not because I'm educated. I'm pretty, so why bother, right? I'm pretty = I am a bimbo.

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Yes I know I have noticed that, luckily I work with a bunch of guys, and my fiancee. Even girls who I would deem prettier than me hate me, maybe because I am "real" and they are not (you know, as a man what I am talking about: tons of makeup, revealing clothes etc ...) I don't have to TRY to be good looking and they hate it
Hah. Haha. I love that. I get told that a lot. "Real girls". I absolutely, to the bone, seethingly, venomously hate the term "real girl". I'm pretty. And I'm pretty **** real, without having to hide behind a million hate-filled excuses to prove how much better I am at being pretty.

"Real girls" don't wear a full face of make up. I don't have to hide behind a shield of "I don't wear makeup" to show it off.
"Real girls" are curvy. I don't have to gain 50lbs to be real or pretty.
"Real girls" dress classy. I don't have to wear a full-length skirt or sleeves to be classy.
"Real girls" are modest and deny being pretty at all.

So I am definitely treated differently. Woman on woman hate. And that definitely doesn't change with looks!

You know what a REAL WOMAN is? Someone who is a goddamn woman. That's it. I don't care if it is Carmen Electra or Carmen Carrera.

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Old 06-16-2014, 12:39 AM
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Oh god yes. Not that long ago a gorgeous young woman cut right in front of my husband in line at a Subway or something. When he pointed her to the back of the line, she flirted and told him people usually let her in line. Unfortunately for her, he's immune to that, but she was completely shocked. Obviously she's used to doing pretty much whatever she likes. And man, in her place I can't say I wouldn't do the same. It's good to be the king.


And "fake" women, really? :/ Tastes vary, there's as much a place in the world for girly girls as there is for not girly girls. Geez like we need to spend energy making each other feel even worse and more self conscious about our looks and bodies than many of us already do.
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:59 AM
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Less is not always more when it comes to clothes, those women who think they have to wear super revealing clothes to get attention, I am not talking about "cute" or "sheer" clothing, nor am I talking about a "full face" either, we have all been to clubs, we have seen women dressed like this. I kind of feel foe them because they will get male attention, but it's the wrong kind of attention, the right outfit will get you less looks, but those look you do get have a better chance of being the right ones,
Things that make you go hmmm...alas.
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And "fake" women, really? :/ Tastes vary, there's as much a place in the world for girly girls as there is for not girly girls. Geez like we need to spend energy making each other feel even worse and more self conscious about our looks and bodies than many of us already do.
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I'm an average looking girl
First, average looking? AS IF. You're a babe.

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Yes I know I have noticed that, luckily I work with a bunch of guys, and my fiancee. Even girls who I would deem prettier than me hate me, maybe because I am "real" and they are not (you know, as a man what I am talking about: tons of makeup, revealing clothes etc ...) I don't have to TRY to be good looking and they hate it
Sigh.. I suppose in case any one comes across this thread, I gotta say this is a bummer. I love make up because I like how it makes me look. I love tattoos. I love wearing the things I wear. When I leave the house, I leave looking the way that pleases me, because I'm the one looking in the mirror. And I leave and enjoy being complimented on my hair or tattoos or make up. I think it's more telling to cut other people down for being "fake" than to just be how you want to be.
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