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Old 06-15-2014, 01:35 AM
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I was watching either doc or PIVIT channel (can't remember which one it was) and they had a documentary on about if people who society would consider pretty or good looking get treated differently than people who society thinks may not be and it was enlightening (and a little sad) that, when the journalist (who was a pretty girl) went as herself into the public (like to stores and such) she was treated very nicely, even allowed to go ahead in a check out line at a walmart when the man in front of her say she had fewer items than him.

But ... when she put on a "fat" suit and had makeup out on to downplay her looks, the way people treated her was vastly different, you kind of had to be watching it, but people's treatment of her ranged from flat out ignoring to downright rude.

I have even noticed this with myself, now I am no beauty queen, but I like to think I am fairly good looking, and I have seen people treat me different than say, an overweight or what society would call an "ugly" person.
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:09 AM
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Absolutely they do, and many studies have proven this.

In part, it makes some sense...society has trained the majority of folks to believe certain looks are more attractive, so generally people such as staff at stores, etc will help them faster or put more effort in for them.

Plus, people who are overweight are frequently labeled as lazy, of a lesser economic class, women who aren't wearing makeup are cited as lesbians or having "given up", and the race aspect - people with ethnic looking hair or clothes are still seen as potentially dangerous, thug-like, etc.

It's a complex issue rooted largely in gender bias and racism.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:41 AM
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yes, conventionally attractive people are treated differently.
In MOST cases better, in some not so (I think there was a study on beautiful criminals and bitter jurors...)

Our brains take certain features and read them as "likeable" and equate that to good traits (kindness, intelligence etc..)
which is why it's such a common misconception/bullying to call overweight people mean or lazy even though people know NOTHING about them.

One of my cousins lost 100 pounds and got scoliosis surgery and said the change in treatment was DRAMATIC. Restaurants, retail stores, bars, she simply assumed people were ambivalent and was shocked at friendliness.

Think of the Susan Boyle singing audition, why were people SO SHOCKED she could sing? Because we've been taught beautiful people are talented.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:55 AM
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yes, conventionally attractive people are treated differently.
In MOST cases better, in some not so (I think there was a study on beautiful criminals and bitter jurors...)

Our brains take certain features and read them as "likeable" and equate that to good traits (kindness, intelligence etc..)
which is why it's such a common misconception/bullying to call overweight people mean or lazy even though people know NOTHING about them.

One of my cousins lost 100 pounds and got scoliosis surgery and said the change in treatment was DRAMATIC. Restaurants, retail stores, bars, she simply assumed people were ambivalent and was shocked at friendliness.

Think of the Susan Boyle singing audition, why were people SO SHOCKED she could sing? Because we've been taught beautiful people are talented.
Yup, this is what I was taught/learned too. Attractive people are not only intentionally better treated (eg by clubs) but subconsciously we're more likely to think better of their non-physical traits as well.
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Old 06-15-2014, 03:42 PM
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Yeah I think they were using people who are overweight and "ugly" by society standard as an example, they didn't do a senario where they made her into a "pretty" person who is overweight or a thin person who was "ugly", though I would have been interested to see that.
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I think people that are pleasing to look at by someone at first glance do generally get treated differently. Of course that lasts only a short while for a lot. Open their mouths and show how ugly they can be, or or great they are and perceptions change.

But on the short term? yeah, people tend to give more leniency or attention to things they find pleasing, even if it is just to look at.

Someone brought up susan boyle, and I'm not so sure it was just her looks that made people perceive her like they did at first. Her whole persona was very awkward. At least that's how they made her look on tv.

It's going back a while, but most people that come off as that socially awkward, didn't she still live at home? had never performed in front of people? only sang to her mother and family and they said she was good? aren't all that great when they get on stage.

on the flip side, there was that cute little girl, i can't remember her name, and I didn't think she'd be that good either and she sang like an angel. Gave me goosebumps and completely blew me away and she was a cute as could be.

I think there is more than looks that go into how one is treated overall though. beyond that initial impression. I've let all sorts of people get in front of my in line, and not all have been pretty. I've had all sorts just jump in front too and i've gotten pissed off at all of them, pretty ones included
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Maybe it's more having to do with the area you (general) ate living? Maybe some areas are worse than others?

I don't mean to rag on the men, I know not all of you are like this, but I have seen men do this a lot with pretty women vs ugly women, give them preference.
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guys and girls alike there entire groups of girls that hang out all the time that won't even say "hi" if you're not good looking enough. Don't even act like this is a one way street.

and if you're too good look as a woman, be careful, because those bitches you work with, ****ing hate you
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:21 PM
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guys and girls alike there entire groups of girls that hang out all the time that won't even say "hi" if you're not good looking enough. Don't even act like this is a one way street.

and if you're too good look as a woman, be careful, because those bitches you work with, ****ing hate you
Yes I know I have noticed that, luckily I work with a bunch of guys, and my fiancee. Even girls who I would deem prettier than me hate me, maybe because I am "real" and they are not (you know, as a man what I am talking about: tons of makeup, revealing clothes etc ...) I don't have to TRY to be good looking and they hate it
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Women/girls are just as judgmental when it comes to looks - and usually the difference is that they will judge other women, too (regardless of sexual orientation).

I'm an average looking girl and I feel that I'm treated very kindly by strangers, never any worse than my attractive friends. That said, I find the area that I love in very friendly and everyone (including me) will nod, smile, and say "hi" to strangers we pass by. I open doors for strangers, they do the same for me, and I always strike up friendly conversation with people I encounter every day. I think that personality and attitude have a lot with how you are perceived and treated, and that's an impression that will usually last just as long (if not longer) as physical appearances.

Now, I do believe that those society deem attractive are treated better overall than those perceived as unattractive or "ugly". I know a lot of people in the online fitness and weight loss groups I know have said that they were treated a lot more nicely after they lost a substantial amount of weight, and that the difference was shocking to them. I also have heard that women are treated better than men (or at least more courteously) by strangers.

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Even girls who I would deem prettier than me hate me, maybe because I am "real" and they are not (you know, as a man what I am talking about: tons of makeup, revealing clothes etc ...) I don't have to TRY to be good looking and they hate it
Okay, I have to address this because... what?!

So when I've applied a full face and choose to wear my sheer top with short shorts (because for girls, there is no other length of shorts), I'm imaginary? Fake? How does one become this superior "real girl", because I've never seen it that way?

Do men not see girls who wear makeup as real? I mean, I choose my makeup and my clothes based on what I like... but should that make men and "real women" hate me?
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