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Old 03-01-2014, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Fran101 View Post
..what a pussy.

lol I have no other commentary.


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Old 03-01-2014, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Toller_08 View Post
I say this owning a very shy dog who barks and growls (not ferociously, but enough to startle people) sometimes at people who approach her, and especially would have in Mia's situation. I still take her out, because 99% of the time, it's not a problem. I ask people to leave her alone, I block her if I need to (I just had to do that yesterday at a park when a child ran up to her, arms waiving, yelling "puppy, puppy, puppy!"), and I give people very obvious body language myself that you do not come near my dog if they ignored the first polite warnings I've given them already. Dance has never bitten or attempted to, but still. I know certain situations make her severely uncomfortable, and so I do my best to make sure she doesn't have to experience those. But at the same time, despite not enjoying strangers at all, she DOES like to go out and do things and is quite happy just to focus on me and our time and normally everything goes nicely. There was a point in time that (when she was more reactive than she is now) I felt similarly to you. If there was a bad situation, and Dance reacted, I immediately went into "well, now I guess we can't go there anymore" mode and was super upset about it.

I guess it all depends on the situation and the dog too though. So definitely do what you are most comfortable with. I just know that in my experience, Dance and I would have missed out on a lot of really great days if I let a bunch of bad/embarrassing experiences get to me too much. There are absolutely certain situations that I do avoid with her both for her sake and for mine, but compared to my thought process of being doomed when I first noticed all of her many, many issues, we actually go and do a lot of things and have a good time and I find I don't need to avoid many of the places/things I thought I should upon more thinking and a game plan.


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Old 03-01-2014, 11:38 AM
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In addition to what everyone else has suggested, if you encounter unruly kids again, say something to a store employee or ask to speak to the manager. Tell them if you'll be leaving if something isn't done, and won't be shopping there anymore.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:50 PM
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Thanks. I'm feeling better about it and talked to one of my classmates about it. She also has a dog that is a bit afraid of kids. It's hard to socialize with kids when you don't know any. Mia probably didn't see a kid up close till she was almost 3 since we were at college and no one I knew had kids. And being a college town there just weren't many around.

She hasn't ever caused a problem before. I take her all around other dogs and people all the time and she just ignores everyone (unless another dog starts up in her face or trying to fight through the crate- happened today).

I do need to b more forceful though. I now know that she can't handle a situation like yesterday so we need to avoid them. Maybe I should just not let people pet either of them while I have both. I'm not sure. It seems like people can't follow directions and only pet Summer like I tell them to.

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Old 03-01-2014, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoom View Post
I would have reacted the same way as Mia. I don't think it's fair to take away get fun things because a couple women who over procreated made her have a bad day.

This 100% IMO that is the parents fault. If you take your child to a pet shop that allows dogs you had damned well watch and control them. Same goes for the dog park. Just as I would be expected to do if I took my dogs to a playground.
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Old 03-01-2014, 05:45 PM
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I now automatically pick Abby up if kids are going to approach us. It's not recommended I know, but we are at the point where I know she's not going to be a social butterfly and I don't expect her to interact with strangers out in public.

Usually it's her they are coming to see, coz she's disgustingly cute. I direct them to Grace who is more than happy to take pats and is highly tolerant of all kinds of human behaviour that would just overwhelm Abby. Win, win for me really because I don't have to be too forceful. I explain the situation, sure but they can't not listen if I have already picked up the dog. Grace is a willing diversion and she gets all the attention while Abby feel safe with mum.

Saves me from stressing out and causing more aggravation for Abby as well. But that's just what I'm willing to do, not everyone wants to pick up their dog
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Old 03-01-2014, 09:01 PM
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Some parents really need to take better control of there kids, & not let them run around everywhere. I had similar experience at petco today, but without a dog.There were 5 kids running around, & screaming at petco. Their parents were just standing there,when their kids were running around.

Don't blame yourself, the parents were at fault.

I agree with the others, she does sound like she was overwhelmed.

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Old 03-01-2014, 10:44 PM
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Agree with everyone who says still take her, and that the fault lies with the parents of the unruly children. I wouldn't blame kids for being unruly and crazy... they're kids. Mom needs to keep them in line. And now that you know Mia can get overwhelmed, you will be more proactive about removing her from situations like that.

One time I had my pit at the store and some little kid came FLYING up behind her and threw his arms around her neck to hug her. I was terrified because, even though Angel's temperament is very mellow, ANY dog could snap if they're startled like that. Luckily, she turned and licked the kid and seemed to enjoy the attention. Mom came running over and profusedly apologized. I appreciated that, and said that everything was ok but definitely let her son know that even friendly doggies can be mad if he does that to them. I can only imagine how bad it would have been if the situation ended differently, with Angel being a pit bull.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:29 AM
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If seven Giants charged and attempted to surround me, I'd probably holler. Mia probably handled it better than I would have.
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:00 AM
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Glad you are feeling better now! I do understand being upset and wanting a great breed ambassador, but no dog should have to deal with that. It sucks that it happens anyway, but outside of being a representative of the breed, the dog is also an individual and is allowed to be annoyed or pissed or nervous once in a while. Considering that this isn't a frequent occurrence for Mia, and that she just gave a verbal warning, I'd say that she was being a pretty good dog. I know that there are a lot of different opinions on dogs growling, but it is not something that disconcerts me on its own. Particularly if you know Mia and can call her bluff.

Who knows? Maybe the kid or his mother will learn to be more respectful of dogs in the future. I love seeing kids love on dogs as much as the next person, but if I had to choose, I'd rather see one knowing to give a dog space.
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