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Old 02-28-2014, 08:51 PM
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Default Mia lost her pet store priveledge

And I'm pretty upset. But I think she just can't go anymore.

We went to petco tonight to pick up some canned food. It was all good until I got by the snakes and two women were there with 7 kids between them. The kids...well three were screaming and one was running around with a cart and running over his brother. The two women looked pretty rough and wer screaming at the kids. Before I knew it we were swamped. I tried to keep them petting Summer who was I phased but Mia charged and was growling at them all. I know her, it was just a bluff but still she sounded awful. And then at the checkout we stood way away in line but the one kid was cowering behind his mom and looking at us and said something about that one dog being mean.

I feel crummy. I should have stopped it somehow. It sucks though. She lies trips places and usually is pretty darn bombproof. But I can't take the risk that she gets cornered by unruly kids again in a store.

I'm just really upset by it all.
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:59 PM
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Trying not to beat myself up too bad. She's never growled at anyone while out and about before. She's always just been very reserved.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:07 PM
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It sounds like she was overwhelmed with that many kids. That's not something she sees everyday?
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:09 PM
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No, she's not around kids ever except for my nieces and only then under very very strict supervision. She gets weirded out by kids in general though. I think it is because they are very direct and also very erratic in movement.

Even so she's always been a go anywhere kind of dog. Generally she just stays away from people.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:13 PM
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I would have growled, too!

It's a little crazy to expect her not to warn them away. You warned them, they didn't listen. She warned them, they listened. I don't see a problem. She was on leash and under control. Don't take her places kids frequent (and if petco is such a place, then avoid it) and you're good.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:17 PM
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Yes, I told them not to approach her but I feel like I should have picked her up and removed her. I guess hindsight is 20/20. In five years I'd never seen her behave that way so I didn't expect it.

I am also bad with kids and got overwhelmed so probably wasn't forceful enough. Didn't help that the mothers were doing NOTHING.

I do think we'll be avoiding pet stores though. I'll just take Summer. Her immediate response to the chaos was 'Oh people to pet me!?'
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:29 PM
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I would have reacted the same way as Mia. I don't think it's fair to take away get fun things because a couple women who over procreated made her have a bad day.
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I would have reacted the same way as Mia. I don't think it's fair to take away get fun things because a couple women who over procreated made her have a bad day.
That. Nola's growled at people on a few occasions (never kids, since she's always around them, and each time it was a VERY valid reason), and still goes everywhere with me. In 3 years there's been 3, maybe 4 growls. I just pick her up and walk away if it's a bad situation.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:55 PM
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I know it's a crummy situation and one that you currently feel really bad about, but I think you should still think about taking her to pet stores if previous visits have been uneventful and an outing she enjoys.

I say this owning a very shy dog who barks and growls (not ferociously, but enough to startle people) sometimes at people who approach her, and especially would have in Mia's situation. I still take her out, because 99% of the time, it's not a problem. I ask people to leave her alone, I block her if I need to (I just had to do that yesterday at a park when a child ran up to her, arms waiving, yelling "puppy, puppy, puppy!"), and I give people very obvious body language myself that you do not come near my dog if they ignored the first polite warnings I've given them already. Dance has never bitten or attempted to, but still. I know certain situations make her severely uncomfortable, and so I do my best to make sure she doesn't have to experience those. But at the same time, despite not enjoying strangers at all, she DOES like to go out and do things and is quite happy just to focus on me and our time and normally everything goes nicely. There was a point in time that (when she was more reactive than she is now) I felt similarly to you. If there was a bad situation, and Dance reacted, I immediately went into "well, now I guess we can't go there anymore" mode and was super upset about it.

I guess it all depends on the situation and the dog too though. So definitely do what you are most comfortable with. I just know that in my experience, Dance and I would have missed out on a lot of really great days if I let a bunch of bad/embarrassing experiences get to me too much. There are absolutely certain situations that I do avoid with her both for her sake and for mine, but compared to my thought process of being doomed when I first noticed all of her many, many issues, we actually go and do a lot of things and have a good time and I find I don't need to avoid many of the places/things I thought I should upon more thinking and a game plan.
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Old 02-28-2014, 10:02 PM
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Don't feel bad. You can't be responsible for teaching every kid how to act around animals, let alone strange animals. That's the job of the parents, and they failed. They got what they deserved. Maybe the kids will think twice next time before running up to a strange dog like that.
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