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Old 01-15-2014, 06:40 AM
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So, I already shared this on FB but I thought it was neat so I wanted to share it here too.

I tried something different last night and Cohen has a nice walking handstand!



I'm kind of stumped at how to fade the lure & change my body position. It's not really "useful" if I have to be sitting next to her, guiding her along. But dang, I love this dog.

For a 40lb dog with a novice trainer and no tail to act as ballast, I'm super impressed with her.

I know quite a few people on this forum have done handstands (free standing and with a wall) and I encourage everyone to post their videos and troubleshoot in this thread.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:36 PM
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That is amazing! I've never had success moving Gusto's off the wall.
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Um yeah. I don't even know how to get my guys away from the wall - I'm happy we even got there LOL. You guys are just awesome!!!
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I was JUST watching videos last night on this. It's the one trick I have been wanting to teach forever and then just never do. Jackson has almost no rear end awareness, LOL... so we'll see how it goes. I'll update my progress.

Cohen is doing AMAZING! She looks fantastic and such a natural.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:03 AM
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That is amazing! I've never had success moving Gusto's off the wall.
Thanks!!

What have you tried? Early on I had a lot of success using a large empty box laid on the wall. It was kind of bouncy and uneven, so I had Cohen windmilling herself up into position pretty early on, instead of reversing straight back. You could also try starting Gusto off closer to the wall to get him lifting himself with his front.

Once you get the windmill I think it's just a matter of offering less and less support while the dog finds the position. Using a hand or arm to support the rear has seemed to help.

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Um yeah. I don't even know how to get my guys away from the wall - I'm happy we even got there LOL. You guys are just awesome!!!
Thanks a bunch! Further to the above, sometimes I get a handstand out of Cohen when we're doing foot target work on a small surface like a bowl. Once the strength is there, the dog may be able to just tip forward into a handstand.

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I was JUST watching videos last night on this. It's the one trick I have been wanting to teach forever and then just never do. Jackson has almost no rear end awareness, LOL... so we'll see how it goes. I'll update my progress.

Cohen is doing AMAZING! She looks fantastic and such a natural.
Thank you! It's been a long (long long) process for us. Mostly because I had no idea what I was doing! It's such a fun trick, and people are really caught off guard when you do it. Do it!
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:22 PM
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What have you tried? Early on I had a lot of success using a large empty box laid on the wall. It was kind of bouncy and uneven, so I had Cohen windmilling herself up into position pretty early on, instead of reversing straight back. You could also try starting Gusto off closer to the wall to get him lifting himself with his front.

Once you get the windmill I think it's just a matter of offering less and less support while the dog finds the position. Using a hand or arm to support the rear has seemed to help.
Mostly I've tried capturing the moments where he isn't using support. He's already pretty good about what I think you are referring to as windmilling - swinging up onto the wall, rather than walking up with his back legs. He's had a few moments where he's supported himself because the wall wasn't where he thought it was, or where he swung up onto something that wasn't what he thought, but it's not very regular. I started to get some really incomplete efforts after that though. One leg going up, or just bumping a hip into the wall and putting his head down. I should try going back to it and seeing if I can do better.
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Cohen is simply amazing. The end.
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Cohen is simply amazing. The end.
True words.

Seriously so impressed with this!!!

I hit the same road block as Boston. I got to the point where he easily swings himself up onto anything there but not if there isn't anything there.

The last I worked on it I was trying to get him to target my hands instead but stopped because I was seriously getting tired of him waving his butt around anytime we worked on anything else might be time to work on it again though! Cohen is seriously an inspiration.
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Okay, so I've learned that Jackson has NO idea he even has back legs. I made a little corner so he has no choice but to back up. And I put a big book behind and am working on getting him to back up against that.

Well, I guess he SORT of knows he has back legs. Because he knows how to do backwards circles around my legs, he knows how to "reverse" and "Back up" etc. But for some reason this is proving to be confusing for him. So we're just going to go slowly. He's just started backing up onto the book, but I'm not sure he even understands WHAT he is even doing yet. Since he won't do it when he's not blocked by a chair on his side lol.
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Okay, so I've learned that Jackson has NO idea he even has back legs. I made a little corner so he has no choice but to back up. And I put a big book behind and am working on getting him to back up against that.

Well, I guess he SORT of knows he has back legs. Because he knows how to do backwards circles around my legs, he knows how to "reverse" and "Back up" etc. But for some reason this is proving to be confusing for him. So we're just going to go slowly. He's just started backing up onto the book, but I'm not sure he even understands WHAT he is even doing yet. Since he won't do it when he's not blocked by a chair on his side lol.

So after this day ^ I got lazy.

So just started practicing again yesterday and am pleasantly surprised with how fast I could stack the books up! He's suddenly picking it up really well.

I have confidence this is going to turn out really cute. I'm going to gradually start introducing him to things besides the books too.

There's a song halfway thru the video because my little sister was in the back singing away LOL... I figured you wouldn't want to hear that!

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