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Old 12-27-2013, 09:45 PM
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Default Can we discuss The Time of the Doctor?

...because Reddit is too much. I don't want to sort though hundreds...thousands...of replies.

Soooo...WHAT DID YOU THINK? The good, the bad, the ugly...

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I loved it. Absolutely loved it. There were parts I had ro rewatch to fully understand, and it did move a bit quickly (it would have been better as a 2-parter).

The regeneration itself...omg...it was perfect. I liked how when you see the first shoe, you just KNOW it's going to be Capaldi...and then it isn't. And there's a slight, ever so slight, thought that this was all a big setup, and Smith is staying a little longer - and Clara feels the same thing. Then the way Matt shows his regeneration pain, but still tries to keep calm for Clara's sake. Best of all, I liked how he was willing to go, and was, more than anything else, HAPPY to be able to regenerate again. I felt like those final moments, with his speech, and the tie dropping, and Clara hoping against hope he would keep his face again, those moments could have lasted forever. But then BAM! Capaldi. It took a long time to build up, but once he was "done" it was an instant and then there he is, and nobody was really quite prepared for it yet.

I cried. I cried a lot. But the minute Capaldi showed up, I stopped, and I laughed, and I'm SO looking forward to August!
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:12 PM
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But...AUGUST

But ya, I loved it, and I cried...a lot, I'm going to miss Matt. But we knew it was coming, and we already knew the New Doctor, but still tears.
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:14 PM
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I'm definitely going to miss him! It took me a long time to warm up to him, but once I did, he was SO amazing! Quite honestly, I think I like him better than Tennant, especially after this last performance.

I was hoping Capaldi would be it from the moment his name was mentioned as a possibility, so I am quite stoked. But yeah, AUGUST. At least it's supposed to be a continuous season, and not split!
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:17 PM
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What do you suppose made him need a cane/have a limp? 300 years had passed, but he didn't look THAT old. I'm guessing he's somewhere around 2000 years old now. Maybe older. I cried when he couldn't even pull the Christmas cracker :'(

I find it interesting that altough the TARDIS didn't like Clara at first, she extended her shields to protect Clara. But she tried to run away from Jack when he clung to the outside, and certainly didn't protect him!
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:27 PM
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Clara isn't a big ball of time-slipped "wrongness" either.

I'm still having mixed feelings and want to rewatch to get some stuff I missed the first time around. Mostly I have giant issues with Moffat being, well, Moffat and throwing established canon to the wind in order to go "HA! PLOT TWIST! TAKE THAT, M. NIGHT!"

I mean, I can sort of maybe not really almost buy the Daleks being back and Real Daleks again. But The Crack showing back up too? And it's because it's the Time Lords are on the other side, who just go "Oh, you're not going to allow us to come back into the time stream? Ok cool! Have another regeneration on us. Cheers!" Though at least Moffat did acknowledge the potential clusterfsck he made when he brought in the War Doctor for the 50th and didn't just brush it off with "well, it didn't actually count because I am Moffat."
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:33 PM
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I mean, I can sort of maybe not really almost buy the Daleks being back and Real Daleks again. But The Crack showing back up too? And it's because it's the Time Lords are on the other side, who just go "Oh, you're not going to allow us to come back into the time stream? Ok cool! Have another regeneration on us. Cheers!" Though at least Moffat did acknowledge the potential clusterfsck he made when he brought in the War Doctor for the 50th and didn't just brush it off with "well, it didn't actually count because I am Moffat."
It was always a matter of time before the Time Lords Konami-coded his regenerations. Running with the crack was the easiest way to go about it without it clamoring over the entire story arc. Glad it's over with, the fans can rage and we can move on.

I thought that they reset him for one generation, but I've been reading further and it's rumoured that the entire cycle has been reset. That bit, if true, I dunno how I feel. It's gotta end sometime, and end right.
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:03 AM
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It is indeed a whole new set of regenerations, the Doctor said so himself, and that's why all the Daleks went explodey-wodey.

As far as the crack, it's really not THE crack. THE crack was fixed, but it's still weak. Like when you have a real crack in your real wall and patch it up with spackle. It's fixed on the surface, but it'll crack again pretty easily. The crack is in the skin of THIS universe. Any number of things can press against it to try to get in. Prisoner Zero's universe for sure, but other possibilities would be N-Space, House's universe...anything, really, and this time it happens to be Gallifrey'ws pocket universe. That said, it's a crack. It's kind of hard to shove a whole planet (and Gallifrey is a big one at that) through a little crack. It's easier to send energy - regeneration energy in the case. But if you were to shine a light through a crack, it would get through easily. Try and shove your hand through, and it might not work so well. The Doctor saved Gallifrey, and the Time Lords know it. They know he NEEDS a new set of regenerations, because Capaldi's face was there to help save them. If they didn't send the regenerations through PDQ, there would be no Capaldi Doctor, and then no Gallifrey to poke at the crack to begin with, because they'd still be stuck in the middle of the Time War.

Daleks will always show up. They're daleks. The Master is bound to show up again sometime, too. And Cybermen. You just can't NOT bring them back at some point.

What really bugs me, is who the **** is Tasha Lem, and do we know her already? Is she River? Is she Romana? Is she a brand new character? WHY IS THE DOCTOR ALL LOVEY DOVEY SEXY WEXY WITH HER?

I thought the Silents being rogue priests was pretty cool. CONFESSSSSSSS. CONFESSSSSSSSSSSS.


ETA: Pardon the humany-wumany bits, I'm inebriated. Perhaps that's when Moffat makes the most sense...
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:38 AM
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Ya I had to ask the hubby about her too, because I didn't remember seeing her before lol. But ya who is she? She'll be back I'm sure, hopefully they'll fix the cracks in her forehead though lol. I agree about the daleks, they will always be back, like cybermen (and what was with his cyberman head? Did I miss where he collected it?).
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:56 PM
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They didn't show where Handles came from, but I loved it! It was his new K-9 equivalent. And it shows that although cybermen are usually his enemies, they don't always have to be. This broken bit of Cyberman was his companion.

On that note...I sort of really want the Doctor to have a real traveling companion again. Not one he picks up once a week (or maybe less) for adventures. Someone who is always by his side, living in the TARDIS...Don't get me wrong, I love Clara to bits, I just wish she was a full-time companion and not the once-in-a-while companion like Amy and Rory were at the end.
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Old 12-28-2013, 03:26 PM
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I like Clara too, but I also want a companion who stays with him all the time, especially with the new doctor.
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