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Old 12-29-2013, 06:35 PM
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titles? health testing? puppies that will grow to poop gold? I'm sorry I just don't understand this price on dogs that are unhealth tested, proven, don't show, pups aren't leaving cropped, with a breeders first litter and a dam that has never had a litter at all.
But..but...the Am Bully world doesn't require any of that nonsense. Just a youtube video of the breeding and you're good to go!
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:39 PM
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Before the breed is just so much of a genetic mess that people will stop buying them.
Oh that'll never happen. If you visit any of the major Bully forums (there was one enormous one awhile back that is no longer online, and you could literally sit and refresh the page, and have breeding upon breeding, puppy and adult for sale scroll by at a fast and steady pace), not only do the majority of American Bully breeders not believe in health testing or have any interest in being educated about health issues, but a well-known dog that drops dead at a young age brings in even MORE cash as people flock to use them and their lines, regardless of what killed them (and most of the time, they don't know, because they chalk it up to "how nature intended" and wash their hands of it).
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:49 PM
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When I google this breed ..they look horribly disproportionate. Is that the 'look' the breed is going for? I'm not trying to be offensive but it's not that I don't find the breed cute (I dislike the looks of a lot of established breeds. To each their own on that one), it's that I find them conformationally horrifying. I looked up Beastro& that cannot be a long lived, sound dog?? Some of the less extreme don't seem quite so terrible but some of them are just horrifying.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:33 AM
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I can tell you that LoLa is heavily related to both those dogs. She has some of the worst conformation ever. She had a kinked tail that was docked at birth which caused nerve problems in her spine. She has a deformed dew claw that bugs her, she has color dilution alopecia, a bad knee, we're assuming a bad elbow and best of all...her breeder wanted a litter from her. Even worse is that she is better our together at most and I've been told she fails at being bully enough, not enough bone and mass. Maybe she does.

My point is, it's breeders like Frost that are continually pumping out puppies like this or contributing to it. Look at Columbia Basin Bullies, it's who has Kittys 2 puppies from her first litter and is Frosts kennel partner. Frost talks a big game but at then end of the day she's a BYB.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:48 AM
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I can tell you that LoLa is heavily related to both those dogs. She has some of the worst conformation ever. She had a kinked tail that was docked at birth which caused nerve problems in her spine. She has a deformed dew claw that bugs her, she has color dilution alopecia, a bad knee, we're assuming a bad elbow and best of all...her breeder wanted a litter from her. Even worse is that she is better our together at most and I've been told she fails at being bully enough, not enough bone and mass. Maybe she does.

My point is, it's breeders like Frost that are continually pumping out puppies like this or contributing to it. Look at Columbia Basin Bullies, it's who has Kittys 2 puppies from her first litter and is Frosts kennel partner. Frost talks a big game but at then end of the day she's a BYB.
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I'm just glad UKC separated pitbulls and American bullies to prevent more contamination to pitbulls.
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I'm just glad UKC separated pitbulls and American bullies to prevent more contamination to pitbulls.
And still, unfortunately, most of them breed and sell their dogs with UKC American Pit Bull Terrier papers, because UKC hasn't actually forced the issue. "Yet," hopefully.
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courtney you are not my friend, you never have been, so im very curious where you are getting all this info about who ARE my friends and who are not. you dont know anything about me, youve never met me, we've never spoken or hung out. yet youre willing to pull **** out your ass that lauren is my PARTNER? stfu. you know nothing

to everyone else, cut the hostility and sarcasm. i dont ****ing need your approval for my breeding, and i didnt ask for, nor am i saying or doing any of the things you are claiming im saying. if thats the way you want to go about it, lumping everyone under the same blanket statements, putting words in my mouth, then **** off. pretty sure that giving 3 puppies away for free, spaying after 1 breeding, and doing health testing already shows im not in it for "TEH MONIEZZ" like you think. just stop. i love my dogs, i love these breed, im not going to destroy something i care about even if you assholes think its not worth caring about. so **** off.
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When I google this breed ..they look horribly disproportionate. Is that the 'look' the breed is going for? I'm not trying to be offensive but it's not that I don't find the breed cute (I dislike the looks of a lot of established breeds. To each their own on that one), it's that I find them conformationally horrifying. I looked up Beastro& that cannot be a long lived, sound dog?? Some of the less extreme don't seem quite so terrible but some of them are just horrifying.
I think they're ugly looking dogs, but I like my dogs to be able to run around and jump and generally be lively and fun...

Same goes for why I'd never own a bulldog or Pekingese or other breed like that.

I don't really understand it, the websites are all geared up as status dogs rather than actual interest in the dogs. It's all about the status....

I think if frostfell is genuinely trying to breed sound healthy dogs, and change things in the breed for the better, then all power to her... I've not been convinced of that in this thread yet.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:30 AM
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Ummm.....Amayon, we have spoken, I could always post our Facebook convos, just saying.

I have not met you but I have met Lauren and I did meet Kitty.

What health testing have you done already? On what dog?
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