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Old 10-29-2013, 10:37 PM
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So I just remembered that there are quite a few snake/reptile lovers here on Chaz, and I want to hear all about your snakes! Or leopard geckos, because it was my friend's recent purchase of a leopard gecko that reminded me of my love for reptiles and snakes specifically.

It looks like I'll be purchasing a snake this January at a big reptile expo, and have already spoken to one of the vendors/breeders who will be there. I've been chatting with him about his snakes and he's said that he'll send me photos and family trees of the babies soon for me to look through. I'm very excited and can't wait to hear back! He sounds like a great guy and seems to have a good reputation in the community.

I'm currently going back and forth between a jungle carpet python and a ball python, although I am strongly leaning towards the former. The breeder has both, and after our conversation I feel like a JCP will be an okay choice, even for a beginner like me. I know a ball python is probably a better choice for me, but this will likely be my only snake for the next 20-30 years, so it's been a tough call.

Plus, just look a this:

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Would love to hear about your snakes (or geckos) and see pictures! Any general thoughts, tips, or words of warning on snake ownership is appreciated, too
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:53 PM
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Love the colour on that snake. So I know nothing about snakes. What is the difference with the two pythons you mentioned?
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Jungles get a bit bigger and have very different habits and personality than Balls, which are very short, very heavy, and ground-dwelling

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Old 10-29-2013, 11:18 PM
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So cool! I love lurking on threads like this. I volunteered at a pet store a few times a week as a young teen and just loved it - I came awfully close to bringing home a lot of the reptiles I worked with. Especially a certain blue-tongued skink whom I just adored, and some corn snakes. It's been quite a while since I've had any non-furry pets lol, but my mom and I had a brown anole named Lex and the sweetest fat tailed gecko named Lana. I would totally have another fatty!
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:19 AM
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Carpet python! We've had 2 at work, and have a female right now. I love her to bits. We also have 2 balls. They're cool snakes, but the carpets are BIG snakes, which makes them that more awesome.

All our pythons can be finicky eaters. The carpet we have now is a pretty good eater - she was sick recently, so she's been off food, but she's picking up again. One of our balls eats great all summer, then doesn't eat all winter. The other one...UGH. She has eaten exactly three times since we got her. She will only eat freshly killed African soft-fur rats. The first time we gave her one, she snarfed it down, then snarfed down a regular thawed frozen mouse a few days later, BUT she also turned into a biter.

If I were to get a snake, I'd want a hognose or a milksnake, or maybe a sand boa. We have all three at work and all are great eaters lol. The exception is the sand boas, they don't eat all winter, but they pick right back up where they left off in the spring.

I have a crested gecko, and we have two at work. The main reason I got one is because I fell in love with the ones at work I'd love to have many, many kinds of geckos, but I REALLY want a leachie. Like, BADLY.

Aside from snakes and geckos, other reptiles don't appeal to me as pets. They're cool animals, but I don't want them as pets. I could MAYBE be swayed into getting a monkey tail/prehensile tail skink breeding pair if the chance came along, though.
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:50 AM
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Love the colour on that snake. So I know nothing about snakes. What is the difference with the two pythons you mentioned?
Same here! I'm hoping for one with a bright/vivid yellow, so I'm glad the breeder is sending me the family trees as well. We'll see!

There's a few differences between them, a lot of which frostfell already covered. Ball pythons are generally docile in nature, don't require much space (for their size), are sometimes finicky eaters, and typically prefer to curl up in one spot on the ground and chill there. I've heard that they are excellent beginner snakes, although they don't make the best displays.

Jungle carpet pythons are more active, semi-arboreal (so they do climb around), and nippier (especially as babies). A lot of JCP owners say that they become more docile with age and handling, while other snake people liken them to chainsaws LOL It's a bit of a hit and miss, I guess. They do apparently have a really good feeding response and can be a little snappy if you are reaching into the enclosure. They have a lot more attitude compared to ball pythons, but they also seem to be more interesting and fun as well. The breeder has both and told me he prefers carpets, and that they will be okay as a beginner snake.

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get 1 of each
Haha, that would be nice but I just don't see it happening! I think just one snake at a time is enough to satisfy my infatuation... at least for now I already have a bit of a full house when it comes to pets, even if most of them aren't technically mine.

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So cool! I love lurking on threads like this. I volunteered at a pet store a few times a week as a young teen and just loved it - I came awfully close to bringing home a lot of the reptiles I worked with. Especially a certain blue-tongued skink whom I just adored, and some corn snakes. It's been quite a while since I've had any non-furry pets lol, but my mom and I had a brown anole named Lex and the sweetest fat tailed gecko named Lana. I would totally have another fatty!
That's really neat! I wish I had that kind of an opportunity before - my mother has always been (and still is) terrified of snakes and grossed out by other types of reptiles. I've personally always loved them (I used to chase gardener snakes around the backyard as a kid) but didn't have much of a chance to handle or learn about them.

I absolutely love the fat tails on geckos! It's absolutely adorable. The friend I mentioned has a cute little leopard gecko, and his tail just gets fatter and fatter as he keeps growing

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Carpet python! We've had 2 at work, and have a female right now. I love her to bits. We also have 2 balls. They're cool snakes, but the carpets are BIG snakes, which makes them that more awesome.

All our pythons can be finicky eaters. The carpet we have now is a pretty good eater - she was sick recently, so she's been off food, but she's picking up again. One of our balls eats great all summer, then doesn't eat all winter. The other one...UGH. She has eaten exactly three times since we got her. She will only eat freshly killed African soft-fur rats. The first time we gave her one, she snarfed it down, then snarfed down a regular thawed frozen mouse a few days later, BUT she also turned into a biter.

If I were to get a snake, I'd want a hognose or a milksnake, or maybe a sand boa. We have all three at work and all are great eaters lol. The exception is the sand boas, they don't eat all winter, but they pick right back up where they left off in the spring.

I have a crested gecko, and we have two at work. The main reason I got one is because I fell in love with the ones at work I'd love to have many, many kinds of geckos, but I REALLY want a leachie. Like, BADLY.

Aside from snakes and geckos, other reptiles don't appeal to me as pets. They're cool animals, but I don't want them as pets. I could MAYBE be swayed into getting a monkey tail/prehensile tail skink breeding pair if the chance came along, though.
Neat!! I really can't wait to handle a few in person, and it's definitely nice to hear from someone who's had a good experience with carpet pythons (aside from CP owners themselves). Most people think I'm crazy

I really like the size and activity level of carpet pythons. Long, but not too long, and relatively slim as well. I plan on handling mine a great deal to get him/her used to it, so fingers crossed that I won't end up with a snappy adult. That one ball python you mentioned sounds like an interesting one LOL I have had a few people tell me not to go nuts if I get a ball python and it goes an entire winter without eating.

I really like hognose snakes, and was considering one before. They are CUTE! But then I found out that they are actually fairly small, and I'm hoping for a snake between 4 or 5 feet to 10 feet. Milk snakes and sand boas are really pretty as well; someone recommended a sand boa and they actually sound perfect for me. I just prefer the distinct heads on pythons and red tail boas to the streamlined look of milk snakes/hog nosed snakes/sand boas.

I remember seeing pictures of your crested gecko (and I think of Kim's as well?). Actually, maybe I'm still thinking of yours... one of you had a blue Dr. Who booth thing in the terrarium. Googled leachies and they look really cool! Do they differ from the other geckos (such as crested or leopard) in temperament?

I'm mostly interested in snakes and geckos as well, although I think blue-tailed geckos are gorgeous. The blue is amazing. But for now just planning for the snake. After that it'll be a while before I get anything else, although I'll be sure to take a look at the geckos when I'm at the expo.
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Old 10-30-2013, 05:02 PM
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Get a pair of each.

Actually, it sounds like the carpet will be a really good fit for you. I love them, if I ever got a snake that grew to more than 5' and or 4 inches in girth I'd only consider them or an olive python, but that won't be happening.

Make sure to look at both parents to get an idea of the babies future markings. Often they start out really clean and bright, but gain a muddy overlay as they age.

Haha, someone had a female leachie for sale here a few days ago. They said that as a giant fruit eating gecko she pooped way too much for the amount of enjoyment they got out of her.

ETA: or a blood python actually. Because whoa.
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Which ever you choose, with enough research, will be a fine starter snake. We got our first snakes (we were only getting one.. we had one for exactly 2 days before we made the 2 hour drive back to get another one, lol.) and we were going to get a Ball Python. But we decided on Boas! So really, which ever you choose will be fine.

Personally, I am really wanting a BP, just because they don't move around as much as a boa, and I want a snake that I can just bring out and put it on my shoulders and go about my business. With our boas, I have to fight to keep them from getting into EVERY single thing! lol
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Please get a jungle carpet python solely so that I can live vicariously through you! They are one of my all time favorites. So gorgeous.

I can't wait to have snakes again. I keep trying to convince Ryan to let me get a rosy boa since they can stay in a 10 gallon forever, he doesn't believe that 3 rats and 2 dogs just aren't enough for a 1 bedroom apartment
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Get a pair of each.

Actually, it sounds like the carpet will be a really good fit for you. I love them, if I ever got a snake that grew to more than 5' and or 4 inches in girth I'd only consider them or an olive python, but that won't be happening.

Make sure to look at both parents to get an idea of the babies future markings. Often they start out really clean and bright, but gain a muddy overlay as they age.

Haha, someone had a female leachie for sale here a few days ago. They said that as a giant fruit eating gecko she pooped way too much for the amount of enjoyment they got out of her.

ETA: or a blood python actually. Because whoa.
Sounds great! And yes, I'll definitely be looking at parents, grandparents, etc. The breeder offered to send pictures of the babies and attach their family trees as well, so I'll definitely have that. I really, really want to clean look so I'll be doing all that I can to stack the odds in my favor. The aesthetics is the largest draw for me, I won't lie, so I'm going to be picky.

And LOL yeah, the poop. I didn't even think of that until I started talking to other snake people about the various types... someone mentioned that her JCP's poop is similar in size to that of a medium sized dog's. And you don't house train snakes!!

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Which ever you choose, with enough research, will be a fine starter snake. We got our first snakes (we were only getting one.. we had one for exactly 2 days before we made the 2 hour drive back to get another one, lol.) and we were going to get a Ball Python. But we decided on Boas! So really, which ever you choose will be fine.

Personally, I am really wanting a BP, just because they don't move around as much as a boa, and I want a snake that I can just bring out and put it on my shoulders and go about my business. With our boas, I have to fight to keep them from getting into EVERY single thing! lol
Thanks, I'll definitely be sure to. Do you recommend researching anything specifically? So far I've just been looking at general temperament of different snakes, handling, and how to set up the right kind of an enclosure/environment for them.

Red tail boas were high on my list, but then I realized that their required enclosure size is significantly larger than what a carpet python (and, of course, a ball python) needs. They're really neat snakes, though, and maybe I'll have one someday! Two would be great, and while I don't see it happening, who knows? I do still really want a ball python...

And yeah, that's a really great point about ball pythons vs. a more active snake. That's the downside to their activity level, especially because I also love the idea of having one on my shoulders and walking around.
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