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Old 09-26-2013, 11:03 AM
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I don't even know how to word it but I get really annoyed when something my dog does that I mention turns into a 'well I have a BORDER COLLIE and they are SO MUCH SMARTER than YOUR dog. And they would do XYZ. So obviously they're smarter.'

It's just irksome. 1. Mia is **** smart. I've lived with quite a few dogs and trust me, she's a smart cookie. 2. Having had multiple breeds on the 'top 10 lists' of smart dogs they vary among individuals. Shelties may be 'smart' but Trey really wasn't. Nikki was. 3. Similarly, individual dogs have very different personalities. We've had a lot of paps and they would all react differently in different circumstances. Ie: Rose is not Mia. Not at all. If you have ONE individual of a breed it's a bit difficult to blanket statement what the breed would/wouldn't do. 4. Dogs are not all smart in the same way. 5. That top 10 list doesn't even include a lot of breeds! I guess those breeds must not be intelligent because they weren't common enough to make the list... Why are we using this thing as the bible of dog intelligence?

Ok just had to get that out.

I'm probably being petty. I dunno. It frustrates me.
I have an Aunt that is HUGE into BC's, now this isn't an assumption that all owners of BC's are like this, but I have met a good many who are, both at rallies & just in general "canine" public places like PetsMart.

But she is very "if its not a BC then its inferior" or "you wanted to do agility but didn't get a BC?" Uh ... sorry, but BC's aint for me. their temperament just isn't for me, I like a tougher dog mentally, she thinks ACDs are "brutish & stupid". Uh ...no ... they are just tougher & harder then your silly little sheep dog, lady.
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:57 PM
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Does anyone else ever feel like they just need to take a break from the dog world? Stay home and enjoy my dogs and nothing else. It's easier said than done of course but I feel like that's what I need.
Heck, sometimes I feel like I need to take a break from my own dogs.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:12 PM
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Heck, sometimes I feel like I need to take a break from my own dogs.
I hear ya there!

I think we might have made a mistake bringing this puppy home. My dogs are stressing out BAD. Pirate wants to kill her. Crate and rotate is going ok for now but our house isn't set up for it. There is no way I'm calling the people who had her before. Sure, they were nice but they didn't care for her well. She is still all matted and I'll probably have to shave her belly. It's a solid mat. She was covered in fleas. I gave her a second bath today. I feel bad for her and I feel bad for my dogs. And I'm stressing too! Not a good situation.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:31 PM
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**** feral cats in my neighborhood are driving me crazy. Last night I'm assuming it was a cat who tore open the trash bag in our trash can and pulled out a raw bone. It was sitting on my back porch just outside the door.

This morning another cat just outside my front door, had to pull Jubel back inside to calm down because he was SO close to getting it as we walked out the door.

Go for our walk and see a few more around the neighborhood. Crossing the bridge back into our neighborhood after our walk and there is a cat with her kitten on the bridge. Kitten runs and cats starts her ground, I back off and wait for her to run too. Won't budge. Creep up on her, still won't go. Had to get a long stick to poke her, still didn't move until I lightly tossed it at her. Finally shocked her into realizing she could turn and run I guess. Entire time Jubel is going nuts trying to get to the cat. Never had so many cat issues in 24 hour block in the 3.5 years I've lived here.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:54 PM
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I asked 4 days ago that my foster dog find another foster. I haven't seen anything being done about it. I was told "Oh okay. I'll find someone."

So... find someone. Like soon. Or ask or SOMETHING
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Old 09-26-2013, 02:14 PM
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Sometimes karma makes me smile....I know! Especially when nosy, ungrateful "friends" get back exactly what they wrongfully accused others of doing.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:51 PM
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Ok interesting, thanks for the info! I am interested in the Tylan and more comfortable with that than the Met. If you do dig up those bottles I would be curious to know as well!
Okay, there's two bottles.
One had a formula called "Six Gentlemen."
The second was a Ginseng & Astragalus tablet.

Here's what the Six Gentlemen formula is:
http://www.chineseherbshealing.com/l...lemen-formula/

He got 1/2 a tablet with both breakfast and dinner. I don't know if I totally buy the Chinese herbs thing but my dog was pooping and throwing up all over my house and skinny as a rail so I was going to try anything. =P We did both for I think four months, one month additional after he was off the Tylan powder. The B12 injections I did for a year... I still have it on hand for emergencies but haven't needed it. It might not even be good anymore.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:37 AM
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A random guy who Panzer met in the Bass pro shop thought Panzer was a cougar hound, by cougar hound he means coon hound. The hunters call them cougar hounds down here. I guess I can see it. Pan does look pretty houndy.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:00 AM
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I don't even know how to word it but I get really annoyed when something my dog does that I mention turns into a 'well I have a BORDER COLLIE and they are SO MUCH SMARTER than YOUR dog. And they would do XYZ. So obviously they're smarter.'

It's just irksome. 1. Mia is **** smart. I've lived with quite a few dogs and trust me, she's a smart cookie. 2. Having had multiple breeds on the 'top 10 lists' of smart dogs they vary among individuals. Shelties may be 'smart' but Trey really wasn't. Nikki was. 3. Similarly, individual dogs have very different personalities. We've had a lot of paps and they would all react differently in different circumstances. Ie: Rose is not Mia. Not at all. If you have ONE individual of a breed it's a bit difficult to blanket statement what the breed would/wouldn't do. 4. Dogs are not all smart in the same way. 5. That top 10 list doesn't even include a lot of breeds! I guess those breeds must not be intelligent because they weren't common enough to make the list... Why are we using this thing as the bible of dog intelligence?
I actually consider some of the more independent breeds 'smarter' than a biddable herder or golden or whatever. I mean..Romeo is 'smart' in that I can teach him things really easy, but he doesn't really get creative on his own like a Husky or a Basenji does. Skye is more independent and harder to train, but more likely to figure out a puzzle than Romeo. I could teach Romeo to do the puzzle, though.

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But she is very "if its not a BC then its inferior" or "you wanted to do agility but didn't get a BC?" Uh ... sorry, but BC's aint for me. their temperament just isn't for me, I like a tougher dog mentally, she thinks ACDs are "brutish & stupid". Uh ...no ... they are just tougher & harder then your silly little sheep dog, lady.
And yeah, I have people tell me to get a Border Collie too. They aren't what I would want to live with...even doing sports, I'm not into the slinky/antsy way they move . I'm also kind of overweight and a smoker and if I wanted to agility..I'm probably better with a slightly slower steady guy.

On the flip side, when I do obedience with my ACD, people ask me what I'm doing in ob and tell me I should be in the agility ring .
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I don't even know how to word it but I get really annoyed when something my dog does that I mention turns into a 'well I have a BORDER COLLIE and they are SO MUCH SMARTER than YOUR dog. And they would do XYZ. So obviously they're smarter.'

It's just irksome. 1. Mia is **** smart. I've lived with quite a few dogs and trust me, she's a smart cookie. 2. Having had multiple breeds on the 'top 10 lists' of smart dogs they vary among individuals. Shelties may be 'smart' but Trey really wasn't. Nikki was. 3. Similarly, individual dogs have very different personalities. We've had a lot of paps and they would all react differently in different circumstances. Ie: Rose is not Mia. Not at all. If you have ONE individual of a breed it's a bit difficult to blanket statement what the breed would/wouldn't do. 4. Dogs are not all smart in the same way. 5. That top 10 list doesn't even include a lot of breeds! I guess those breeds must not be intelligent because they weren't common enough to make the list... Why are we using this thing as the bible of dog intelligence?

Ok just had to get that out.

I'm probably being petty. I dunno. It frustrates me.
You're not being petty. I actually mentioned something similar in a thread I just made about Ma'ii's herding instinct test. The person who did his test is a HUGE Border Collie fan, and made a remark about how ACDs are a very "thick headed" breed and not nearly as good at Border Collies. Border Collies are smart, but they aren't God's gift to man. There are a LOT of other dogs in this world that can do everything they can and than some.
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