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Old 11-22-2013, 01:51 PM
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I discovered yesterday that Leo growls at dogs when he is on leash. It seems to be all dogs. :-(
Then this morning, a dog walked by outside (he couldn't even see him, just hear the jingle of the collar) and he also growled.

His foster parent said he was good with other dogs, and at the shelter he was in close proximity with other dogs and was fine. But now he growls at all of them. This confuses me and also makes me sad.
Besides that Leo has no issues at all. He is super human friendly and well behaved.

I don't really know how to handle it. I want to continue socializing him with other dogs (since he is still only 9 months) but how do I start when I don't know how he is going to react to them? :-/
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Old 11-22-2013, 01:52 PM
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Old 11-22-2013, 01:55 PM
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At least it is only growling, and if you get started working on it now it will probably be no big deal I would highly suggest the LAT game, make sure he is far enough away from the other dog to feel safe, and click and treat every time he looks at the other dog. Be fast and shovel food in his mouth as soon as he looks at the other dog, don't wait until he starts growling. If you know other people with dogs, ask them to help you. Every time Leo looks at another dog it should be THE BEST EVER! You want him to see another dog and go OMG LOOK FOOD PERSON, THERE'S A DOG! WHERE IS MY TREAT?!! Start changing the association now, work hard, and make it a non-issue before it becomes a real problem

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I discovered yesterday that Leo growls at dogs when he is on leash. It seems to be all dogs. :-(
Then this morning, a dog walked by outside (he couldn't even see him, just hear the jingle of the collar) and he also growled.

His foster parent said he was good with other dogs, and at the shelter he was in close proximity with other dogs and was fine. But now he growls at all of them. This confuses me and also makes me sad.
Besides that Leo has no issues at all. He is super human friendly and well behaved.

I don't really know how to handle it. I want to continue socializing him with other dogs (since he is still only 9 months) but how do I start when I don't know how he is going to react to them? :-/
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Old 11-22-2013, 02:21 PM
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At least it is only growling, and if you get started working on it now it will probably be no big deal I would highly suggest the LAT game, make sure he is far enough away from the other dog to feel safe, and click and treat every time he looks at the other dog. Be fast and shovel food in his mouth as soon as he looks at the other dog, don't wait until he starts growling. If you know other people with dogs, ask them to help you. Every time Leo looks at another dog it should be THE BEST EVER! You want him to see another dog and go OMG LOOK FOOD PERSON, THERE'S A DOG! WHERE IS MY TREAT?!! Start changing the association now, work hard, and make it a non-issue before it becomes a real problem
Seriously, such good advice. It sounds counter intuitive, but it works and I love LAT.
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I discovered yesterday that Leo growls at dogs when he is on leash. It seems to be all dogs. :-(
Then this morning, a dog walked by outside (he couldn't even see him, just hear the jingle of the collar) and he also growled.

His foster parent said he was good with other dogs, and at the shelter he was in close proximity with other dogs and was fine. But now he growls at all of them. This confuses me and also makes me sad.
Besides that Leo has no issues at all. He is super human friendly and well behaved.

I don't really know how to handle it. I want to continue socializing him with other dogs (since he is still only 9 months) but how do I start when I don't know how he is going to react to them? :-/
Also adding that a dog can growl while on leash and still be good with other dogs. I agree, work with him on it since it's still not a fun behavior, but it doesn't necessarily have to mean he can't be around dogs. Juno will lunge and growl if we walk past other dogs - but she can actually do an on leash greeting just fine and goes to the dog park etc and is wonderful.

Id have a better response if I wasn't on my phone but just wanted to mention it doesn't have to be worst case scenario!
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:10 PM
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At least it is only growling, and if you get started working on it now it will probably be no big deal I would highly suggest the LAT game, make sure he is far enough away from the other dog to feel safe, and click and treat every time he looks at the other dog. Be fast and shovel food in his mouth as soon as he looks at the other dog, don't wait until he starts growling. If you know other people with dogs, ask them to help you. Every time Leo looks at another dog it should be THE BEST EVER! You want him to see another dog and go OMG LOOK FOOD PERSON, THERE'S A DOG! WHERE IS MY TREAT?!! Start changing the association now, work hard, and make it a non-issue before it becomes a real problem
Yes this . Fiona can be a little grumbly in a crowded situation with other dogs trying to sniff her, and especially if the other dog is anxious/staring her down/etc. We started doing some heavy focus stuff, LAT, just a strong WATCH ME and it has worked pretty quickly to get her to focus on me when she sees another dog. She isn't aggressive either when meeting the dogs, just grumbly on leash.

And don't forget, you just adopted him, he might just need to settle in and learn to have trust in you .
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Old 11-22-2013, 08:35 PM
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:19 AM
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At least it is only growling, and if you get started working on it now it will probably be no big deal I would highly suggest the LAT game, make sure he is far enough away from the other dog to feel safe, and click and treat every time he looks at the other dog. Be fast and shovel food in his mouth as soon as he looks at the other dog, don't wait until he starts growling. If you know other people with dogs, ask them to help you. Every time Leo looks at another dog it should be THE BEST EVER! You want him to see another dog and go OMG LOOK FOOD PERSON, THERE'S A DOG! WHERE IS MY TREAT?!! Start changing the association now, work hard, and make it a non-issue before it becomes a real problem
Thanks for the advice! I tried this on our evening walk, and it does seem to help a bit. I didn't feed him his dinner and went out on a walk with him (and it in my pocket) instead. Then it was: see a dog, click, shovel a handful of food in his face Just one or two pieces wasn't enough, but a handful definitely did the trick for him to complete forget about the other dog.
It seemed to work. He only growled once, and that was when a dog and owner rounded the corner and surprised both of us. The others, I saw first, and was ready.

I will continue working on this with him. It's nice to have something to do, instead of feeling helpless.
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:05 AM
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Seriously, such good advice. It sounds counter intuitive, but it works and I love LAT.
I did the same thing with buddy and leashes / collars because he hated them. He still doesn't love them and I don't think he ever will ... But at least we have graduated from "OH MY GOD! I HATE IT YOU ARENT GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR ME WITH IT!" To "I still don't know about this but I get treats every time it's on so I guess it ident so bad."
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