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Old 09-01-2015, 03:47 PM
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Default Which breeds do you consider the most biddable?

I am wondering which breeds most people consider the easiest to train, and the most biddable, and handler oriented?

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Old 09-01-2015, 05:40 PM
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Overall as a breed, Malinois comes to mind. Siege makes Trent look like a stubborn rock and Trent's a German Shepherd.

"Easiest to train" really depends though, because in theory, sure...but in reality I really have to find the right balance with Siege when it comes to training/rewards. She's hard to physical corrections but fairly handler soft, and many rewards are overstimulating to the point where she simply can't think because she just wants that reward SO **** BAD.

Trent tends to be more deliberate and think things through and realize what I'm asking of him, though in the end, Siege picks up on things a lot quicker because she'll offer behaviors continuously and is much more driven for her reward.
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:52 PM
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you need to meet more Malinois

I think any herding breed in a general sense, but things vary so much between dogs, you could take pretty much any breed bred besides the hound and guardian breeds and could probably easily find a biddable, handler oriented dog. and even in those types you can find those dogs, but i think generally speaking, obviously the dogs bred to work "with" people not just "for" them will have more of those traits
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Old 09-01-2015, 07:45 PM
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Oh, I should add that in NO way do I find GSDs lacking in biddability, and have known plenty of German Shepherds more biddable than some Malinois. Depends on the dog, depends on the training, depends on how they're raised, etc.

A large part of Trent's relative lack of biddability is how I raised him (incorrectly), but also his uncharacteristically independent nature, and handler hardness.

Like RTH said, there can be a huge spectrum in any breed.
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IMO it depends on what you're asking of the dog and how to fill their needs and wants. Any dog can be brilliant in their own way.

Border collies are pretty easy to train, and are very biddable - unless they decide you're not worth listening to or think you're mistaken.

Papillons are pretty easy to train, and are very biddable if they love you. They are little tyrants if you let them run the show.

Labradors are very easy to train by the book which is pretty much any book but have a harder time with the more abstract concepts that papillons bridge to much more easily and quickly. They love food, and mostly like you - especially if you have food or a fetch item but I don't find my lab especially motivated by just my desires alone like most of my papillons are.
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Any really biddable dogs that are actually easy to live with?
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Old 09-02-2015, 02:46 PM
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Any really biddable dogs that are actually easy to live with?
Some of the problem might be that breeds bred to be super biddable are also bred to work. A lot. A dog who is always energized and ready to work with and for you might have a hard time living the easy pet life at home.
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Old 09-02-2015, 02:51 PM
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I think it depends what you mean by biddable.

Cynder is VERY biddable. She will do what you tell her to do, when you tell her to do it. She hates water and hates swimming, but once swam out to sea because Michael had waded out and called for her. But trainable? Pfffft. I can't even teach her to sit reliably on command because she's so soft she shuts down when any pressure is put on her - including following a lure.

Abrams I would also say is biddable. He tries SO HARD to do what you want. He's also very motivated and loves to work. That being said, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, so he can't grasp tricks and things as quickly as my collie mix back home could. But, since he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, he also doesn't get in to near as much trouble as my collie mix did. LOL
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Hank is really really easy to train except when it comes to recall around small furries.

Border collie
Golden
Sheltie
Poodle
Papillon
Collie

^ my first thoughts
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Old 09-02-2015, 03:06 PM
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Echoing what others have said above, a biddable dog is often less than easy to live with. I personally find herding breeds in general and border collies and cattledogs in particular to be wonderfully biddable. My cattledogs seem to wait with baited breath for a command so they can snap to it and then beg for another. Someone naturally chill is not going to follow you around going "Look at me! I sat! I know something! OMG tell me to do something else!"
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