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Old 07-09-2013, 11:27 AM
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There's been some serious talk about adding a dog in 2014. Crossbone just LOVES the company of other dogs and I've always loved having multiples. DH is on board and wants one just as much or more than me! (which he has always been a 0 to 1 dog person). We've been checking out petfinder periodically or talked about grabbing a Koolie when we're in Australia in January.

What we're looking for:
- Between 14-19" tall
- Med/High Energy - needs to love to play and keep up with Crossbone. He loves to wrestle, chase and play tug with dogs. Fetching is a major plus.
- Adaptable- needs to be able to travel every other weekend to different houses with us that could have other dogs, kids, etc
- We're gone between 7 & 13 hours a day for 18 days each month (we're home or travel with the dogs the other 12) but walk/bike/jog 4 miles 3-5x per working week
- happy & friendly


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I've been toying around with rescue vs breeder. I've never had a dog from a reputable breeder and would love to have some idea about temperament & health, especially because I love dog sports. But I haven't found "my breed" and love the idea of having a slightly older rescue mutt.

- Another cattle dog mix or rescue.Would love to have a small female. Only concern really is no health testing/temperament guarantee.

- Koolie - Major concern, among others, is their size and intensity with our 750 sq ft house and 4ft jumpable fence.

- DH LOVES the look of Chinese Cresteds but I can't find ANY good breeders and they're not terribly sporty

- Rat terrier? Not sure if I want another terrier and I'd have to do a lot more research

- Mini Poodle - DH thinks they're scary looking but I think it'd be a good traveler and I could see it meshing well with Crossbone


Any suggestions or opinions?!?!

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Old 07-09-2013, 11:46 AM
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There's been some serious talk about adding a dog in 2014. Crossbone just LOVES the company of other dogs and I've always loved having multiples. DH is on board and wants one just as much or more than me! (which he has always been a 0 to 1 dog person). We've been checking out petfinder periodically or talked about grabbing a Koolie when we're in Australia in January.

What we're looking for:
- Between 14-19" tall - Koolie fits
- Med/High Energy - needs to love to play and keep up with Crossbone. He loves to wrestle, chase and play tug with dogs. Fetching is a major plus. Depending on what lines you are looking at, koolies range from medium to high energy. They are known to have great off-switches if fostered from puppyhood.
- Adaptable- needs to be able to travel every other weekend to different houses with us that could have other dogs, kids, etc Koolies tend to go with the flow. Mine travel to people's houses, trials, training centers, work, odd locations like county fairs for demos without skipping a beat.
- We're gone between 7 & 13 hours a day for 18 days each month (we're home or travel with the dogs the other 12) but walk/bike/jog 4 miles 3-5x per working week Shouldn't be a problem with any high energy breed. As long as they are getting a predictable outlet for their energy, longer days aren't an issue.
- happy & friendly This should be the koolie motto. At least for a koolie in correct temperament.


Dogs we've talked about:
I've been toying around with rescue vs breeder. I've never had a dog from a reputable breeder and would love to have some idea about temperament & health, especially because I love dog sports. But I haven't found "my breed" and love the idea of having a slightly older rescue mutt.

- Koolie - Major concern, among others, is their size and intensity with our 750 sq ft house and 4ft jumpable fence. Zip Tie figured out how to jump our 3.5' potty area fence, but hasn't ever thought twice about jumping our 4' chain link fence. All of my dogs easily could, however, I'm pretty careful about not leaving them outside unattended for long periods of time. They are only outside when we are or if we have the windows open and are periodically checking on them.

As far as house size, we have a 1,100 sq foot house, but only really live in the upstairs. I don't find the close quarters to be a hinderance with three high energy dogs except for when they are all running around crazy and wrestling. Then I solve that by either shoving them outside, working them, or crating one so the other two can play. However, I have to deal with this because I don't deal with chaos very well and it's my way of coping.


- Mini Poodle - DH thinks they're scary looking but I think it'd be a good traveler and I could see it meshing well with Crossbone
I adore mini poodles. That's all.


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Old 07-09-2013, 01:27 PM
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- DH LOVES the look of Chinese Cresteds but I can't find ANY good breeders and they're not terribly sporty...
Check out this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zlhkMwppKw


Diva wasn't the only Crested Lisi did agility with. I've known of others who have, too. I also know many who do obedience, and there's at least one who does UKC weight pull.
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Uhm, you need a Lucy. That is all.


Pool Day by DJetzel, on Flickr

In all seriousness, if you don't mind LOUD(er), then a Kooligan may be a good fit. I'm just one to push cattle dogs of course. Lol!

ETA: Lucy would be an amazing sports dog. Just another thing to think about.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:17 PM
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That video made me cry. I would absolutely do more Crestie breeder research -- I'm very particular about which ones I like.
ETA -- DH calls them "those beautiful punk rock dogs"

Meagan, I think we need to have a Crossbone/Lucy play date!!!!! Lol at the LOUD(er). I swear Crossbone barked more than Traveler or Didgie (or Frag & Rider) at the park.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:28 PM
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I'd look into a crestie a little bit more...I've known some pretty athletic ones, and I believe MafiaPrincess does agility with Arson.

The mini poodles I've known have not been a fan of any kind of rough-housing, wrestling, etc. with other dogs.

In your situation, I think I'd be looking for another herding mix rescue, but personally I've always leaned towards rescue dogs.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:39 PM
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I know Cresties are athletic, we see a few who do agility at some of the venues I frequent, they're just not terribly serious about the game.
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I can't speak for herding breeds, so others with more experience can help there I do know of several very sporty Mini Poodles. Most are up for anything .not dainty foo foo dogs at all.
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What we're looking for:
- Between 14-19" tall

Both Traveler and Didgie are over that (Didgie is 20 in & Traveler is close to 22 in) But many Koolies would fall into that height, especially females.


- Med/High Energy - needs to love to play and keep up with Crossbone. He loves to wrestle, chase and play tug with dogs. Fetching is a major plus.

Endless amount of energy and go but a VERY nice inherent off switch. But, that needs to be rewarded and encouraged and busy behavior not rewarded. It would be relatively easy to create a dog with the need to be doing something in them because they do find DOING THINGS rewarding.

Didgie is a more busy dog but it's in a nice way, she finds bones and chews on them or finds a toy and plays with it. She tends to go lay down on one couch, get up five minutes later and go lay down on another and so on. Traveler doesn't tend to entertain himself but rather just goes into stasis mode where he quietly waits for me to move.

Overall Didgie and Traveler probably get individually 2-3 off leash hikes a week and 2-3 bike rides a week during spring/summer/fall. They also tend to get either disc play and/or flirt pole for a little bit daily. That being said, it's not a stretch to say that sometimes they go a week without really getting anything and during the winter I go into hibernation and they don't get anywhere near what they probably should. They deal incredibly well with that though.

They both enjoy playing and wrestling with each other a ton.


- Adaptable- needs to be able to travel every other weekend to different houses with us that could have other dogs, kids, etc

I don't do a ton of going to other people's houses and tend to not instill great house manners with mine so they aren't always the best behaved with that. But, if I had put in the work with that it would be no problem and as it is they still go everywhere with me with no real issues and take everything in stride. People and other animals are never a problem.

- We're gone between 7 & 13 hours a day for 18 days each month (we're home or travel with the dogs the other 12) but walk/bike/jog 4 miles 3-5x per working week

- happy & friendly

Yeeep!

- Koolie - Major concern, among others, is their size and intensity with our 750 sq ft house and 4ft jumpable fence.

]I don't even have a fence and don't really have any issues. Didgie and Traveler can both be loose in the yard (Traveler took longer so he was on a long line a lot but he's a good boy now.

Also, my house is small and we have four dogs currently in it. I like crazy so I don't mind the insanity but honestly it's not a big deal at all. Overall they lay around/entertain themselves inside just fine when things aren't happening.

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Hey Linds how are your two when introduced to small dogs/animals?
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