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Old 06-05-2013, 04:45 PM
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Curious, why are legumes bad for you?
I did not say they are bad for you. I haven't had a white potato in almost three months, but generally speaking I don't see them as "bad" food. I eat peanut butter on a regular basis and peanuts are legumes. (If I could afford almond butter or sunflower butter on a regular basis, I would eat those instead, finding them nutritionally superior - but that stuff is expensive. =P)

But a potato is a legume and not a veggie just like corn is a grain and not a veggie, therefore shouldn't fall into that same "Hey eat LOTS of these!!" category. (Sweet potato, by the way, is a root veggie, like carrots and turnips.)

You could, however, google "lectin" or "potatos" and "leaky gut" to see why some people have issues with potatoes, and may not even realize it's the potato who is the culprit.
Here's a nice little write-up on legumes as a whole (including beans) and why it may be wise to limit them:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/beans-legumes-carbs/
and some info from the same writer on potatoes in particular:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/paleo-potatoes/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/potatoes-healthy

Note where he talks about how eating potatoes seems linked to joint pain (for himself) - and yet he still eats them.

I don't think potatoes are necessarily horrible and need to be avoided at all costs, but I don't think it's the sort of thing people should be shoveling into their mouths with the same frequency as, say, spinach or broccoli or, really, any given other veggie. Fine in moderation like most things.
But just plain not a veggie.
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Curious, why are legumes bad for you? A Legume is simply a plant that can fix it's own nitrogen, therefore you don't have to fertilize as much with N. Beans, peas, peanuts, etc. Fact, never knew potatoes were a legume!
a lot of beans, which people substitute for meat and protein don't actually contain a lot of nutrition other than some starch and protein. Also they contain phytates that block the absorption of other nutrients and actually bind to others in the intestines and pull them out of your body. So while they provide protein, they rob your body of a lot of other things. There are lots of better sources for protein for your everyday diet.

In limited quantities, big deal I say. I still use black beans when I make burritos with flour shells , but that's not a staple in my diet.
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you always beat me to the punch and with a lot more info. I'm slow
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:09 PM
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I did not say they are bad for you. I haven't had a white potato in almost three months, but generally speaking I don't see them as "bad" food. I eat peanut butter on a regular basis and peanuts are legumes. (If I could afford almond butter or sunflower butter on a regular basis, I would eat those instead, finding them nutritionally superior - but that stuff is expensive. =P)

But a potato is a legume and not a veggie just like corn is a grain and not a veggie, therefore shouldn't fall into that same "Hey eat LOTS of these!!" category. (Sweet potato, by the way, is a root veggie, like carrots and turnips.)

You could, however, google "lectin" or "potatos" and "leaky gut" to see why some people have issues with potatoes, and may not even realize it's the potato who is the culprit.
Here's a nice little write-up on legumes as a whole (including beans) and why it may be wise to limit them:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/beans-legumes-carbs/
and some info from the same writer on potatoes in particular:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/paleo-potatoes/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/potatoes-healthy

Note where he talks about how eating potatoes seems linked to joint pain (for himself) - and yet he still eats them.

I don't think potatoes are necessarily horrible and need to be avoided at all costs, but I don't think it's the sort of thing people should be shoveling into their mouths with the same frequency as, say, spinach or broccoli or, really, any given other veggie. Fine in moderation like most things.
But just plain not a veggie.
Ah, gotcha. I was just intrigued to your reasoning for limiting legumes (other than potatoes, totally understand why you would want to limit those). I took a veggie class last semester, so I did learn a thing or two, but yeah, must have missed where potatoes were a legume. Learn something knew everyday!

I guess this is kind of more off topic, I know a potato is a swollen underground stem, and a legume. A sweet potato is an actual root, so it is a legume also?
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I do stir fry a lot but my problem is sauces. I know I am undercutting the nutrition by dousing it in a sauce. So need to fix that.

Is it normal to have GI issues when you switch over from a lot of prepackaged meals to whole foods? I am having some issues today. Put it mildly. Chills, diarrhea, feeling a bit shaky. This always happens and is usually why I revert back to crap eating.
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Is there some rule for approximately how many veggies you should eat? Lately I've been using about 5 cups of raw leafy greens for my smoothies.
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But a potato is a legume and not a veggie just like corn is a grain and not a veggie, therefore shouldn't fall into that same "Hey eat LOTS of these!!" category. (Sweet potato, by the way, is a root veggie, like carrots and turnips.)
A potato is not a legume.

Its in the tomato family (nightshades), you can even graft tomato plants to a potato and get plants that grow both tomatoes and potatoes. A potato also grows small green fruit that looks like a tomato, but are poisonous.
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Yeah, I am pretty sure that potatoes are not legumes.

Legume
A legume is a plant in the family Fabaceae, or the fruit or seed of such a plant. Legumes are grown agriculturally, primarily for their food grain seed, for livestock forage and silage, and as soil-enhancing green manure. (Wikipedia)

Potatoes are in the Solanaceae family, or nightshades. Not legumes.
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I'm currently in the process of cleaning up my diet. As of last Saturday I've cut out refined sugars as much as possible. No foods with sugar as one of the first 3 ingredients, no foods with high fructose corn syrup, no fast food, when I eat grains go for whole wheat, brown rice, etc. I've also cut out pop.

This was actually a very big deal for me since I usually ate fast food and candy at least once a day if not twice, drank tons of pop, and lots of pizza. I'm not worried so much about portions right now beyond not eating past full and making sure I'm eating single portions of breads, corn, pasta, or potatoes when I eat them.
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sorry Laur but that's one of the best genuine typos I've seen in a while.
I just got around to reading this thread... And laughed. Really ducking hard. Like omg.
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