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Old 06-05-2013, 02:48 PM
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Beet pulp is a deal breaker for me.
I used to feel that way, but I very much trust this source, which is from a (long time missing) Chaz member actually.


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Common Fallacies of Dog Food Reviews

"Beet pulp is a poor quality filler and should be avoided because it commonly causes problems, including allergies and ear infections."

Beet pulp gets its bad reputation undeservedly, which is the reason it's not listed under Ingredients to avoid on this site.

It is a gentle, beneficial source of fiber that is not only generally very well tolerated, but it also has specific properties that make it suitable as a source of nutrition for the beneficial bacteria that reside in the intestinal tract (in a supplement you would call this a "prebiotic"). The same people who malign beet pulp also often state rice bran is a better fiber supplement, but in truth it's a much harsher kind of fiber and may lead to vomiting and diarrhea in sensitive dogs or if it is used in too large amounts.

In all the time I have been consulting for dog owners on nutrition, I have actually not had a single case where I pinpointed beet pulp as the cause of problems, whereas the opposite is true for rice bran.

Almost all of the sugar is removed from the beet pulp, what's left is only about 1/5 the amount of sugar that you would find in a serving of fresh carrots of equal size. It is also colorless and does not make a dog's coat turn red, like urban legends claim.

The manufacturers of quality pet food do not include more than about 5% of beet pulp in their foods, which is enough to get the benefits of this fiber without it becoming nothing but a filler.

The claim that beet pulp is an "unnatural" ingredient is often brought up, but those who argue this seem to forget that it is also not natural that dogs eat commercially produced dry food that contains rendered meat meals, a carbohydrate percentage of generally 40% and more, and has a moisture content of only around 10% as opposed to a more natural 60-70%. Added fiber is required to make such formulations work for the pets who eat a dry diet as well as for manufacturing.
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Beet pulp is a deal breaker for me.
Agreed, not from "what such-n-such website says" either, but PERSONAL experience that my dogs ONLY get dirty and infected ears on beet pulp filled foods. I'm dealing with it now, two dogs eating a new food, which has beet pulp in the ingredient list, and both have dirty ears and are shaking their heads, they weren't with the previous diet, only ingredient difference. Sorry, but personal experience trumps all for me.
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Agreed, not from "what such-n-such website says" either, but PERSONAL experience that my dogs ONLY get dirty and infected ears on beet pulp filled foods. I'm dealing with it now, two dogs eating a new food, which has beet pulp in the ingredient list, and both have dirty ears and are shaking their heads, they weren't with the previous diet, only ingredient difference. Sorry, but personal experience trumps all for me.
I totally get that. I'm not a fan of beet pulp and I'll avoid it if I can. I just don't think it always needs be treated as cyanide. Both scientific knowledge and experience are both extremely valid. My personal experience has told me a dog can live into their teens with a gorgeous, shiny coat and rippling muscles eating Ol' Roy. Doesn't mean it's they case for every dog.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:55 AM
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I totally get that. I'm not a fan of beet pulp and I'll avoid it if I can. I just don't think it always needs be treated as cyanide. Both scientific knowledge and experience are both extremely valid. My personal experience has told me a dog can live into their teens with a gorgeous, shiny coat and rippling muscles eating Ol' Roy. Doesn't mean it's they case for every dog.
Yes, true, my childhood companion lived to 16 1/2 on Pedigree, never had an ear infection in her life, but she had the WORSE nasty ash colored smelly grease on her skin! She herself didn't really smell, but whatever that was, it was surely the food, and for me if I know I can do better, heck I will! the only reason I bought this last bag of food was because Enda stopped eating the Fromm so I'm on the hunt again to find something she'll eat, and whatever she's eating Noodle gets too. Jinj is a different story, actually he's doing HORRID right now but that's another story in itself, and I know exactly what people go through with an allergy dog. Honestly, if you know your dog can handle the ingredients, or you're willing to put up with the little maintenance that might come with it (I'm having to clean ears frequently), then try it.

I'm in NO WAY saying this is a bad food, don't take it that way! Just saying to take into account each ingredient and check your dog frequently while feeding it the first time to make sure you're not missing anything (which going back to the ears, is obviously easier to monitor prick ears than floppy, which it why Noods didn't get noticed till he started shaking his head and dropping an ear to the side). Honestly, for myself I actually find more fault with all the peas, but as has been mentioned, compared to the previous food when your dealing with a lot of these types of "limited diets" it'll be one thing or another usually, if it's not peas it'll be potato, or rice, or whatever.
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If your dog is okay with the peas then according to me it is really not a bad food.
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