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Old 06-04-2013, 01:57 PM
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So I have a questions of what would you do. Pup, Pup is coming to me with no vaccinations, now I probably will wait to 12 weeks to get his first shot then again at 16 weeks or wait till 16 weeks and then leave it at that. Titer in a year.

Called the local vet regarding if they see lots of parvo and distemper in this area, said they get and out break every year, this time of year. Now I don't know if that is correct or just a scare tactic. Because I talked to the local holistic pet store. The owner is very, very into the dog community around here and she has never seen an outbreak. So I don't know who to believe. I will probably be calling some more vets as well as the local holistic vet.

Now to the questions. We do a lot of boating and camping this time of the year, like every weekend and I am in mental turmoil if I should wait to take the puppy out until 12 weeks or if I should say screw it and take the pup out boating and camping anyways. Would you guys worry about taking your pup out without vaccinations?

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Old 06-04-2013, 02:08 PM
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I personally wouldn't take a pup out without vacc(parvo/distemp). To me it isn't worth the risk at all.
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:21 PM
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I agree with xpaeanx 100%.
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:43 PM
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I know I take mine out at our own risk, but I take them everywhere from the time I get them. I keep hearing how dangerous it is, yet most everyone I train with vaccinates minimally or not at all. I'd say 50% of those I train with don't do anything but rabies. Those puppies go everywhere. I laughed when my last dog had titers drawn at 1 year and showed normal titers. When the vet found out I didn't vaccinate they said I needed a parvo vaccine ahhh, ok? I asked them if they thought I was stupid.

Same thing happened with a guy I train with now. The puppy came from a breeder that does zero vaccines. Took him in at about 6 mo's and had a blood titer done. Normal levels and they still said he needed parvo and distemper vaccine. He wasn't stupid either and asked them why? Their answer, because he wasn't vaccinated and therefore he didn't have protection against them. He didn't want to argue with them so he just declined and came and told us the story. He was wondering to himself for 2 days if he was just an idiot about the whole thing because they were so insistent on vaccinating his puppy even though the blood titer clearly showed he was exposed and had normal levels of antibodies to parvo already.
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:58 PM
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I would want the pup to have had at least one vaccine 2 weeks prior to taking him out and about. That was the requirement I had for puppies in puppy class when I was teaching group classes.

With Aeri, she got her second right before our trip home, so I was careful about where we stopped for potty breaks, but not too concerned. She got her third and final somewhere between 4 and 5 mo.

Given that you have a breed that will need extensive socialization, I'd be tempted to get a vax at 9-10 weeks so I could start going out and about earlier. The socialization window closes between 16 and 20 weeks, with some breeds (usually the bigger ones) seeing it close closer to 14 weeks.
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:04 PM
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Brooks came to me with three vaccines, so I've taken him out and about. In past times, with puppies who are in the beginning of their series, I do take them out and about, but am MUCh more careful about where we go. My area has Parvo year round and this time of year is when the number soars(we see several positives each week..by next month I'd expect at least one positive result per day). While I am all for not vaccinating too young, and I do not over vaccinate, I do NOT mess around with Parvo, since I see puppies die from it frequently, and treat very ill pups routinely. In fact, I currently have double bagged clothes and shoes in my trunk, waiting for a hot wash cycle. (we have two parvo pups at work right now and the bloody poo explosions that occurred (and that I cleaned off the walls) were so gross that I called my husband to bring me new clothes at work.

Once they're adults I do very sparse vaccines or titers, but pups get their series.
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:16 PM
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I think seeing a puppy go through parvo is what got me the most. I know there are a lot of unvaxed dogs that don't get parvo, I know if they get parvo and you rush them to the vet (while expensive) they have a decent survival rate.

But to risk putting MY puppy through ANY of that, simply bc I didn't vax before taking them out? So NOT worth the risk to me. I do minimal vax when they get older, but I don't mess with puppy and parvo.
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I think seeing a puppy go through parvo is what got me the most. I know there are a lot of unvaxed dogs that don't get parvo, I know if they get parvo and you rush them to the vet (while expensive) they have a decent survival rate.

But to risk putting MY puppy through ANY of that, simply bc I didn't vax before taking them out? So NOT worth the risk to me. I do minimal vax when they get older, but I don't mess with puppy and parvo.
you don't think this happens to vax'd puppies?
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:49 PM
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I think if I have an option to decrease the chance of it I'm going to take it.
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Old 06-04-2013, 04:31 PM
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you don't think this happens to vax'd puppies?
I am sure it does.(although I presume you are talking about puppies in their series) In over 8 years of working in veterinary clinics I have yet to see a fully vaccinated puppy (who has completed a series, and not had shifty vaccines from our feed store, where there was a known instance of poor storage somewhere along the line) develop a positive test result for Parvo. And it is everywhere here, so I'd think I'd see it here and there by now.

I will not vaccinate a million times, starting at 7 weeks, but I will definitely protect my pups the best I can, particularly when I know I am in an area with a high instance of disease.
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