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Old 06-03-2013, 03:57 PM
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Again, racism and prejudice/bias are not the same thing
This. I do think everyone has a prejudice (just being human), but NOT everyone is racist.
And not every racist is hateful or violent, either. I know someone who is obviously racist, but she insists she's not. Her argument is, and I quote, "I'm not racist. I hugged a black person once."
Sorry lady, yes you are.
Not everything is so black and white. (No pun intended.)
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:24 PM
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I think most people subconsciously judge others whether they mean to or not. I know I do even though it is something I know is wrong. We all have our own biases and stereotypes.

There is a huge difference between being human and also realizing you are being unfair and then being hateful. Most people can look past their initial impressions.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:37 PM
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I think most people subconsciously judge others whether they mean to or not. I know I do even though it is something I know is wrong. We all have our own biases and stereotypes.

There is a huge difference between being human and also realizing you are being unfair and then being hateful. Most people can look past their initial impressions.
I can agree with this.... 100%
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:11 PM
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I think most people subconsciously judge others whether they mean to or not. I know I do even though it is something I know is wrong. We all have our own biases and stereotypes.

There is a huge difference between being human and also realizing you are being unfair and then being hateful. Most people can look past their initial impressions.
That's what I was trying to say in the first part of my last post but you said 100% better.
As an example of a prejudice, my grandmother. She is about the most accepting, non-judgmental person you'll ever meet. However, after 9/11, when she sees large groups of middle Eastern men at the airport she gets nervous. She hates that she feels that way (and tries very hard not to), and it makes me sad, too, but she's only human.
It's not a good thing, but based on a traumatic experience she just reacts that way. She also knows she's wrong. I think that makes a big difference.

Someone on yahoo made some really good points about this topic.
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Length of job candidates hair (or hair color) their tattoos, piercings, weight, age, sex, ethnic origin, religion, marital status, sexual orientation or pretty much what makes them different from you or anyone else. The word means to pre judge a person which we all do (or have done) if we are honest. It affects us when we apply for a job, a loan, or deal with any other person for any kind of interaction. Have you ever been in a store and feel like you are being watched? If you are a cashier what customers do you watch (that LOOK like shop lifters?) WE are all judged on our appearance and actions even how we speak. Last time you were in an airport did you notice some people were scrutinized more than you why? Why was the car in front of you pulled aside at the border and not you? Why did the police officer search YOUR car?
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There is basically a horrifying subreddit for every thing, so no, not really shocked by this. Combine it with the fact people will literally say ANY THING on the internet and it makes it even less surprising.
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Am I the only person that knew what stormfront was w/o looking at the page?
For future reference, don't bother looking at anything related to:
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This. I do think everyone has a prejudice (just being human), but NOT everyone is racist.
And not every racist is hateful or violent, either. I know someone who is obviously racist, but she insists she's not. Her argument is, and I quote, "I'm not racist. I hugged a black person once."
Sorry lady, yes you are.
Not everything is so black and white. (No pun intended.)
Yes I went back & red my posts & I was unaware that the way I wrote them implied that I thought (or was insinuating that they were the same thing) whodh I didn't mean to do ... Not intentionally anyway xD.

I have prejudices not just towards human beings but also certain animals. I am prejudice against birds due to a horrid experience with birds as a kid, I also am prejudice against small dogs (generally speaking ) I have just always been a big dog person.
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:30 AM
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In one of my bachelors class for nursing the whole class was focused on finding our hidden biases and we ALL have them if you can recognize it or not. Doesn't mean its in a mean cruel way, just that there are little things that everyone feels towards someone maybe even unconsciously.
Yeah. I used to think I was exempt. Then I read The Left Hand of Darkness, and the author, bless her brilliant heart, slapped me across the face with my own prejudice in the most subtle and elegant way imaginable. It was really humbling. I highly recommend reading it.

You can even get it for a penny on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Left-Hand-Dark.../dp/0441478123
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:44 AM
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Also, I don't buy the, "I'm not a racist because I don't harbor mean feelings/fearfulness toward X group of people," argument.

Stereotypes are racist/sexist/whateverist because of their nature. It doesn't matter if they are "positive" or "neutral" stereotypes.

Take for example:

Black people are good at basketball. They like fried chicken.

Asians are really good at math. Jews are good at handling money, they make good accountants.

Women are better at nurturing and that's why they should be taking care of the kids.

Even though there is nothing inherently mean about those statements, and some even appear to be uplifting, the act of ascribing a trait to an entire group based on ethnicity or gender is dehumanizing. It's saying that a person's traits, good or bad, are defined by their heritage, by their DNA, and that's just not true. People aren't their parts. They are their choices and preferences, and that varies wildly from person to person regardless of their lineage or which chromosomes they have.
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