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Old 05-16-2013, 04:40 PM
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Roan is a pattern not a color. It's just heavy ticking.

Lemon is ee red which is a recessive trait. I do not know much about gsps but I wouldn't be surprised if it was carried at all. It's common in other pointer breeds and it could stay hidden quite some time.
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The guy who owns it has linked me the breeder... I didn't ask him to, I don't really want to get into a conversation about it with him

I was more curious than anything!!!

I haven't done genetics in over 10 years and its all gobbledegook to me these days
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:18 PM
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Don't know about the genetics, but I have met one! A guy at the dog park has two GSPs, one the normal liver and white and the other lemon. "Casper" was an unusual color but was a good looking dog.
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:44 PM
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I'm fairly certain throwbacks can happen in GSPs that come out lemon (I *think* throwback is the right word there), but it's fairly rare, and knowing how well people know their dog breeds, I'd guess a good part of the time, lemon "GSPs" ARE mixed with other types of pointers?

I'm almost positive it's not impossible for a purebred GSP to be lemon, though.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:14 PM
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From the AKC standard:

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The coat may be of solid liver or a combination of liver and white such as liver and white ticked, liver patched and white ticked, or liver roan. A dog with any area of black, red, orange, lemon or tan, or a dog solid white will be disqualified.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:59 PM
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Clear red is recessive. It will show up in lots of breeds. Much like long coats show up in GSDs, Malamute, Dalmatian, Rottweiler, Weimerainer, basically any short coated breed will throw long coats ocassionally. Its hard to breed out entirely and not really worth the effort. Recessive red is the same way. Yellow labs were culled for a long time before they were accepted. Yellow flat coats became Goldens, and still pop up in Flat Coats from time to time. It happens. No reason to suspect crossbreeding (the same argument can be made of silver labs, too, particularly since dilution genes exist in related breeds Cheeses and Newfs).
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:59 PM
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Except that silver labs came out of a single kennel that ALSO bred Weims, and silver labs were unheard of -- as in, did not exist -- until this one kennel started producing them. Or so I'm told by people far more knowledgeable about Labs than I am.
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That looks like a Pointer to me... especially the ears! And they come in that color often.
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It could be possible. Although not highly common. It also happens in dalmatians as well.
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That looks like a Pointer to me... especially the ears! And they come in that color often.
...No they don't. GSP's we're talking? It's not a common or "often" colour...
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:44 AM
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...No they don't. GSP's we're talking? It's not a common or "often" colour...
I think she's saying Pointers (not GSPs) often come in that color... which they do.
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