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Old 05-17-2013, 06:53 AM
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English Shepherd?
Similar coat to an aussie, but I think the ES has 'less'. Their coats just tend to be less poofy. You can also find larger males. The breeder I got Hudson from prefers her males to be 65+. Hudson isn't super barky either, like when he gets excited playing fetch, or tug, or whatever, his default response is not to bark. He was just barking at a runner going by the house, but he stopped as soon as she was out of sight.
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:18 PM
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Oh thanks for your post, Bouvs and Standard Poodles are the two breeds I am highly considering for NextDog, when we loose Gage. I am leaning more towards Bouvs because its way easier to find breeders that work their lines.
Wow ...
it's rare to find someone for whom
both the S.Poodle and Bouvier are appealing!?!

I've also, always liked the S.Poodles "on paper,"
and really thought we'd eventually get one.

I took a long, long, hard look at the breed,
researched them quite extensively,
and even managed to find a good breeder
(not easy to do, especially with Poodles!).

But, once I got past that impressively long list of health issues:

1) I realized that, in all these years,
I've never come across even one, single individual
whose temperament and personality I actually liked,

2) Although aesthetics are far down on our list of priorities,
both of us still have a real problem with the appearance ...
and this, regardless of the hair style.

3) And finally, after taking care of a friend's Standard for a week who,
she had proclaimed, was "almost human" in its intelligence
("intelligence" is, indeed, relative ) ) ...

I finally came to realize that, "three strikes and yer out" ...
For us, a Poodle will never happen.
Occasionally, I've recommended the breed to others,
and it might be a good choice for the OP, but not for us.

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Old 05-17-2013, 06:42 PM
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I want a non-shedder, ideally.
Have you considered a Basenji? There is almost no grooming involved, they have no odor, and shedding is barely noticable.

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I want a clingy velcro dog.
You will never be able to go to the bathroom alone again.

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I want a dog who is medium to high energy who will keep me active.
Basenjis are energizer bunnies.

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I want a dog who is a little sharp. Not all happy and doofy and "yay I love everyone."
Well socialized Basenjis are very friendly to people but many grow up to be less demonstrative to strangers.

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I preferably not want a breed that is known to be excessively barky.
No barking but not neccesarily quiet all the time either.

Basenjis can be complicated dogs to live with at times but I can't imagine my life without hem.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:55 PM
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Wow ...
it's rare to find someone for whom
both the S.Poodle and Bouvier are appealing!?!

I've also, always liked the S.Poodles "on paper,"
and really thought we'd eventually get one.

I took a long, long, hard look at the breed,
researched them quite extensively,
and even managed to find a good breeder
(not easy to do, especially with Poodles!).

But, once I got past that impressively long list of health issues:

1) I realized that, in all these years,
I've never come across even one, single individual
whose temperament and personality I actually liked,

2) Although aesthetics are far down on our list of priorities,
both of us still have a real problem with the appearance ...
and this, regardless of the hair style.

3) And finally, after taking care of a friend's Standard for a week who,
she had proclaimed, was "almost human" in its intelligence
("intelligence" is, indeed, relative ) ) ...

I finally came to realize that, "three strikes and yer out" ...
For us, a Poodle will never happen.
Occasionally, I've recommended the breed to others,
and it might be a good choice for the OP, but not for us.

I love the softness of the poodle, and the sharpness of the Bouvs! I would even consider owning one of each at the same time, I think they could compliment each other, at least for my family.

And now back to your regularly scheduled thread...sorry for the hijack!
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:36 AM
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Just wondering what your "Velcro dog" experience with basenjis is? I've definitely never heard them described like that. I've always known them to be a fairly independent breed, on the primitive side of the more popular pet breeds. The ones I've worked with haven't seen very Velcro at all, but I didn't spend much time with them at home. They were never overly affectionate with me or their owners, at least not while I was around.

They also don't reach 65 lbs.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:27 AM
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I believe she breeds and shows them?
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:41 AM
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I believe she breeds and shows them?
I know she's had a lot of experience with the breed in general, I'm just wondering what she means by describing them as a "Velcro dogs" and exactly how affectionate or attached her dogs are.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:56 AM
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You need a zoi. :P

Velcroness is an individual dog thing. Strider isn't velcro. Kaia. Oh my gosh. I can't even go into the showgrounds when she's going to be shown or she can smell me and it totally messes her up in the ring because she's just standing their air scenting and looking around frantically. Her dad is the same way with his people.

The only other drawback is the shedding. If you have a spayed female or an intact or neutered male it shouldn't be a big issue. They have no undercoat and long silky hair. Yeah there's some shedding, but it behaves like human hair and vacuums up easily.

Mine almost never get brushed except as a bonding activity. They don't really need it. Once every few weeks. They don't have a doggy odor. Strider only smells if he has an allergic reaction. I can actually smell when he has fleas because of it. Usually if they get wet they'll just smell like whatever shampoo you used on them last.
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Just wondering what your "Velcro dog" experience with basenjis is? I've definitely never heard them described like that. I've always known them to be a fairly independent breed, on the primitive side of the more popular pet breeds. The ones I've worked with haven't seen very Velcro at all, but I didn't spend much time with them at home. They were never overly affectionate with me or their owners, at least not while I was around.

I'm sorry for the delayed response. I don't visit here as often as I used to. In the past, it was common for Basenjis to be aloof, independent, and sharp tempered but breeders have done an excellent job in turning this around. A well-bred, well-socialized Basenji is eager to meet everyone. Many adults will retain this attitude at maturity but others will choose to be affectionate with their owners but selective towards strangers.

There is a wide range of personalities within the Basenji breed. As far as Velcro, it is not unusual for rescues to have separation anxiety. They want to be with their owners constantly and won't let you out of their sight, indoors or out. ("They stick to you like Velcro.") A well-socialized, properly exercised adult will want to lay on or next to you on the couch and sleep in bed with you. They follow you around the house because they are curious about what you are doing. Not really "Velcro" but very companionable. Outdoors is a different story. Use a leash, period.


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They also don't reach 65 lbs.

I did not see that in the first post and missed it later in the thread. Sorry about that. Basenjis are only about 20-25 pounds so that boots them out.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:37 PM
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Thanks for the response! That's good to know. The basenjis I've known (only a handful) have all been very aloof with strangers, and not particularly affectionate towards their owners, but I don't know how they acted typically in the home.

They're definitely becoming quite popular city dogs, and I think were much more rare 10+ years ago, so it does make sense they're being bred to be more pet-like.
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