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Old 05-12-2013, 03:41 PM
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Default How to Train a White Shepherd to not chase and Kill Sheep

A friend of mine on Face book has a White Swiss Shepherd that is chasing and killing Sheep. She lives in Europe if I remember correctly. Anyway the dog doing it is a young male. Just over or under a year. She is looking for suggestions on how to stop her dog from doing this. Since I have never had this issue I have no idea where to begin other then to tell her to confine her dogs or keep them leashed. I don't know much of the details surrounding it. She just commented on a post I put up of my girls and made the statement that she basically needed help with teaching her dog to not kill sheep. So I thought I would ask you guys to see if you have any tips.
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:11 PM
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Find a trainer who'll hands on evaluate the situation and assist them? I would probably recommend corrective and aversive methods but not for someone trying to work the dog alone, I would want the tool handler to have experience prior.
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How is this dog in a position to chase and kill sheep? This is mostly a management issue really. Around here if my dog gets loose and is worrying livestock, he gets shot. That's not something I'm willing to risk a confirmed killer to training. All 3 of mine will kill prey in a minute. Therefore they are either with me where I can recall them, or they are confined to the house.

As for working on recall, this guy makes a lot of good sense:
http://www.dog-secrets.co.uk/how-do-...y-dog-chasing/
But like anything it takes time and effort...
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:22 PM
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I have asked for more details but this is all I have to go on right now:

"the young male has playfully strangled three sheep and he even started eating the last one. Add two rabbits to that."

So it is pretty serious. She lives in Uganda. So I have no idea how easy it is to get a trainer in the area she is in. But I can see why this would be a two person job at this point.
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:24 PM
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Sounds like she just needs to start supervising and controlling her dog before it gets shot.
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:25 PM
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Playfully? LOL Oh dear...

Like I said, I would use aversive methods for this situation and management but I don't recommend them for someone who's not well versed in handling in the first place.
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I am awaiting her reply as to the circumstances that her dog was able to get to the sheep to do this. I am just trying to give her suggestions to try and help prevent it from happening. I did message her the link though Danefield. Thanks for that.
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I think it's great you're helping, I hope it is figured out. For the immediate I would instruct her to never have the dog off leash outside. Each kill reinforces the behavior.
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:49 PM
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The thing is I am unsure if the dogs are inside dogs, outside only dogs, or inside/outside dogs. I also don't know if these were her sheep the dog killed or a neighbours or if it happened out on a walk or if the dogs was alone. I also don't know if she lives on a farm or near one or in a town or such. When I get more info I will let you know. I did ask if she has the ability to keep the dog confined to the yard when away.
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