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Old 04-16-2013, 12:46 PM
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Cant really type right now as I sm out to lunch but thought perhaps the marathon bombing should have its own thread? That way those who don't want to be involved in the conversation, speculation, etc can still vent on the venting thread.
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Old 04-16-2013, 02:00 PM
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Well :P Guess everyone is done talking now

I will add my thoughts here though.

Conjecture based on evidence (which may or may not prove to be relevant or true) is totally different from conspiracy driven thoughts. My FIL is notorious for after something happens, he then goes back and looks for signs. Guess what, if one wants, you can link almost anything to anything. You can MAKE things "fit" when you have a conclusion that you have jumped to and then go back to find things to prove it. That is totally different from taking actual facts and circumstances and making conjecture and educated guesses from that.
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Old 04-16-2013, 02:30 PM
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Yeah, conspiracy theories aren't going to help anyone really.

My whole issue with the reporting on this is the PHOTOS. When did it become OK to post photos like that? I was totally not expecting what I saw as I went through some of them on major news sites. A guy with half his leg gone and his tibia totally hanging out? and it wasn't until later that they at least blurred out his face. another photo with a paramedic taking a ladies pulse on her carotid artery... was she dead in that photo? I mean... it's just insane.

I regret ever looking at them but I am astounded that they are allowed to post pictures like this especially before anyone was able to be notified about their loved ones.
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Old 04-16-2013, 02:47 PM
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I was very careful not to look at any photos. My co-worker told me not to because he knew it would upset me... I make no secret of the fact that I don't like gore. And he knew I was already really upset so he warned me, just don't look at any of the photos.

This morning I have seen news stories that have a WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES tag on them at least. I don't have a problem if they are going to publish those with a graphic images warning, but I do have a problem with those photos just being splashed around like it's nothing... I don't need to see gore to know it's horrible. All I had to see was a still photo of the explosion to almost burst into tears.
I was home for lunch and my dad was watching CNN and they aired a video captures the explosion the moment it happens and I happened to be walking past the TV when they aired it. It was horrifying. You can't even see anything, just the building exploding, and you hear cheers turn to screams... and it's horrifying.

The most haunting image I saw from 9/11 was a man jumping out of the towers... the buildings were burning and people decided to jump to their deaths instead, and somebody took a photo of this guy jumping... on his way to his death... to this day it still disturbs me. I wish I had never seen it. And that's not even "gore." God knows there's plenty of gore out there related to 9/11...

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm just unique. Maybe "most" people need to see gore to understand the horror and the tragedy. But I don't think so. I know this was something debated during Vietnam... what do you show people? Do you really need to shock people to let them know it's real? Or is that just desensitizing people? I mean, surely there's some level of desensitization that has occurred that news groups don't think twice about publishing those photos...
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While I agree those photos are not appropriate for the general public I am MORE bothered by doctoring photos for the public. Talk about blurring the line. The guy, in the wheelchair, with the blanket on his lap? There is an identical shot on another news site without the blanket and while the shot is upsettingly gruesome it really makes me uncomfortable that they doctored the photo without a clear admission such as an old school blur or big black censor bar.
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While I agree those photos are not appropriate for the general public I am MORE bothered by doctoring photos for the public. Talk about blurring the line. The guy, in the wheelchair, with the blanket on his lap? There is an identical shot on another news site without the blanket and while the shot is upsettingly gruesome it really makes me uncomfortable that they doctored the photo without a clear admission such as an old school blur or big black censor bar.
That is....odd.....just odd. Why do that? I saw the pic cropped several times, and that makes sense but yeah, adding a blanket is weird.

I go back and forth with the pics in general. I will have to admit, I am drawn to them. They upset me and make me horribly sad and anxious, but I also feel, for ME, I need to see them. I dont need them to make it more real, but it does seem to help me process it faster somehow.

It also makes me sad when I realize for many countries and communities...these pics? They are a common reality for some
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It also makes me sad when I realize for many countries and communities...these pics? They are a common reality for some
Oh yes. For us this is a horrifying event that is a relative rarity.

For other countries things like this happen about once a week...

It is definitely an upsetting and sobering thought.
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The poor guy in the wheelchair. I find myself wondering about him. I hope he is doing ok. I can't even imagine what he is going through. The pictures are horrible. I clicked an article today that didn't say it was photo related and that pic popped up right away. I closed the window before I could tell if it was one of the doctored versions or the full shot. I don't want to see the full shot again.

Then again, I shocked myself yesterday with the first bloody picture I saw. My immediate thought was that it looked like a movie. Then I was horrified that I was that desensitized to violence. Ugh
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While I agree those photos are not appropriate for the general public I am MORE bothered by doctoring photos for the public. Talk about blurring the line. The guy, in the wheelchair, with the blanket on his lap? There is an identical shot on another news site without the blanket and while the shot is upsettingly gruesome it really makes me uncomfortable that they doctored the photo without a clear admission such as an old school blur or big black censor bar.
I didn't see that one. I saw one with a guy in a wheelchair with what looked like a blanket on his lap with a bloodied up face but that wasn't the same guy as the one missing his lower leg and I haven't seen the photo of either of those with blanket added or with blanket taken away. I did see the cropped photo of the guy missing half his leg and thought "wow he looks so grey" and figured it was from the explosion and then when I saw the real photo I was like OMG... he's grey because he is missing his leg.

I remember there used to be a time that if they were showing something with blood in it (a news story... not a fictional show) they had to at least make it black and white so it wasn't just BRIGHT RED.
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Yeah yeah, people dont like to believe snopes but whatever, they back their claims up with sources.

Some good info here debunking, validating, or explaining some of the rumors

http://www.snopes.com/politics/consp...n.asp#facebook
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