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Old 04-10-2013, 02:25 PM
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I find things like dog parkour to be incredibly dangerous. The dogs in those videos, I'm sure they like other things just as much. It's not locking the dogs up from having any fun, it's not putting them in situations where having fun is just as likely to go horrifically wrong as it is to be fine.

I think it is fundamentally different if your dog breaks a leg jumping off a fallen tree in the forest while running off leash, than if your dog breaks a leg jumping off a retaining wall because you asked him to.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:48 PM
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When she said that I went "Wait, did I hear that wrong?" I mean, seriously?

But, I'm a big believer in teaching dogs to do things correctly like landing, jumping, how to use their body, building up those core muscles to work on preventing injury when they inevitably do something like that because they're DOGS and it's gonna happen if I don't wrap them in bubble wrap.
Except that they might eat the bubble wrap and get a blockage!

Life isn't safe. People and animals' lives end in the simplest, most unpredictable ways sometimes. I think that people should be reasonable about what they're doing and asking their dogs to do and realistic about their individual abilities, but they shouldn't stop living life for fear of accidental injury. Especially from every day things.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:27 PM
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I have a feeling she'd have a heart attack just watching Savvy be Savvy.

This is mostly...just silly LOL Seriously. She has a very alarmist attitude.

"A border collie can work sheep until they pass out...and die"

I think these Silvia Trkman's articles are a good answer to this:

http://silvia.trkman.net/agilityisgood.htm

http://silvia.trkman.net/agilityisgood2.htm

Really dogs are made for running, leaping, jumping, chasing, tugging, twisting, etc, etc.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:55 PM
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I was watching that but Summer unplugged my computer which made my computer die and the video stopped loading.

There's a middle ground there. They're DOGS. We can't bubble wrap them. Use common sense but sheesh... Overanalyzing every movement they make or what you ask of them is going overboard.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:56 PM
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I do think she takes it too far, but if you leave out the extremist stuff and get to the main point it's an important message. Think about your motivations for what you are asking or making your dog do. Is it for you or for them? Are the potential risks worth it? It could also be applied to some of the training methods people use to get their dogs to do something like carry a dumbbell, something with no benefit to the dog. Think about that video that was posted in the training section of the dog doing down stays in a super busy road and heeling through the traffic. Is the trainer really trying to proof his commands or just show off how strong his dogs down and heel are? Is the risk (not super high if he knows his dog, but certainly not low either) of his dog getting hit by a car worth showing off?


With things like sports it's not that straight forward because usually it's not done simply for the owner, the dogs generally love it too. I think you can say you are doing that for the dog, as well as for yourself, so weighing the risks of injury against the joy the dog gets out of, and the bond built during training for it, and the health gained by training the dog's body for it is not so clear cut and simple. It needs to be done on an individual basis. I think kikopup doesn't see all of the benefits of sports for the dog.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:01 PM
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"A border collie can work sheep until they pass out...and die"
Don't have sex. Because you will get pregnant and die!
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Don't have sex. Because you will get pregnant and die!


AND DIE!!!


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Bubblewrap can be eaten and suffocated on. You might kill your dog.
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Bubblewrap can be eaten and suffocated on. You might kill your dog.
/me duct tapes the dogs to the ceiling.

There. Safe at last.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:45 PM
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As someone who is dealing with a dog injury caused by running in the woods, I do think the video is pretty extreme. I do wish more people would consider what they are asking their dogs to do in sports - it's lovely to say "Agility is a sport for every dog!" but, let's be honest, there are some breeds and some individuals that would really be better off finding a new activity.
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