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Old 04-05-2004, 06:02 PM
jimmibudd jimmibudd is offline
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hello y'all......

this is my first post on this msg board!!

i have a Red Heeler female puppy who is going to be 6months old in 2 days....
she has a kennel but we really havent been using it.... we should be

our pup still keeps pooping and peeing in the bsmnt and getting into stuff when we're not home...... she is getting close to going outside more often but still has accidents during the day and at night when we sleep..... after readuing some stuff i have come up with some ideas....
- first, we should not be letting her run free during the day when we are not home... donagerous for her
- we r going to start kenneling her during the day now when we r at work.... her kennel is quite large and when she was a pup she would make a "mess" in the kennel. this is the reason we stopped using the kennel..... we would have to bath the poop off of her. i've heard that it was because the kennel was too large for her and because she was still young..... i should've divided the cage...... today i was home sick so i took the opportunity to put her in the kennel and listen to her reactions.... she was suprisingly quiet... with a few yelps here and ther.... i also put a cooler in there to decerease the size of the kennel.... thinking the smaller size will keep her from "messing" it up... it was enugh room for her to turn around and lay down... but not really stretch out.... she did not "mess" it.... and when i put her out on the new chain we have in the yard (she jumps the fence too much and is gonna get stolen or hit by a car) she had a pee.... i raved and gave her a treat...she looked embarrased....... so im gonna kennel her during the day to help with the accidents and gonna try and kennel her at night....

here's my plans.....
- thinking of moving kennel into kitchen in her 'spot' now with her mat so it, hopefully, becomes less threatening..... it's in the bsmnt and im thinking that at night she may be less likely to whine and close enough for me to say 'shush.... its ok...'.....
Questions:
- what is the best size for a kennel and how to prevent them from "messing" in it?
- if we kennel her at night she is most likely to whine..... any suggestions on making her comfortable?
- keeping the kennel in the kitchen with the door open will hopefully make her more comfortable with it and see it as place of refuge..... good idea?.... how do i re-enforce this?
- will i need to kennel her every night once she is better trained and older?
- am i going to have major troubles considering hse is 6months and hyper? i walk her soon as i get home and then shes out on the rope for a bit....



lots of questions..... sheesh!!

thanks all!!

james
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Old 04-08-2004, 03:07 PM
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I have a 5 month old siberian husky which is the most energetic animal I have ever seen. I was taking him to obedience classes and I got a lot of tips for training and other things. What we do with our dog in the begining of potty training was get them used to the kennel. We would take them outside to go to the bathroom on a leash and go to the same spot everytime. I now its a hassel but it works. Stick to two words one for pee the other for duties. I say "go potty" and "do your duties" After they relieve themselves which you should take them out everytime they eat and get done playing, praise them and always have a treat on hand. I like the Charley Bears your can get them at Pet Smart and they are good for training. Right after they are done doing there duties take them inside and kennel her until she is quiet. Doesn't have to be long at all. This gets her in a routine. I wouldn't kennel your dog day and night. I would stick with night. Maybe thinking about getting a baby gate and putting her in the bathroom could be a good idea. And putting her kennel in there to so if she wants to go in there she will. She probably doesn't like it right now. I put my puppy in the bathroom during the day. Usually I buy those knuckles and those big bones with grissle on them. After they eat all the grissle off I stuff them with cheese and it keeps them happy. I pick up the garbage can plunger soap toliet paper everything and throw there favorite toys in the bathroom.

Also for night time with my dog I used to kennel him all night and would not let him out. Yes he whines but he will get over it. After they are potty trained you don't need to use the kennel. Before my puppy Arcata hated his kennel now he loves to play in it. It one of those small one for like a 10lb. dog but he loves playing with his blanket in there. Also we had to stop using the kennel because he grew out of it. He barely fits.

Good luck my dog is crazy and Im trying to deal with his temper.

Michelle
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Old 04-08-2004, 06:58 PM
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hello hello
well she's been in the kennel at night now without a sound..... WOW... i was expecting noise and whining..... i also have been letting her out at about 1-2am.... she also hasnt made a mess in there and i have taken out the cooler and she is getting the full size kennel... still no mess.....
i get up at 5am and let her out.... hyave taken her for a quick run once...... then i let her roam about til everybody else is up at 7ish..... then shes in again at a little after 8 til about 330, when i come home and take her for a big run...

we've also been blocking the bsmnt with a child-gate so she cant sneak down and pee.... she has been reall really good.....

tonight though, the kids were downstairs and she was upstairs.... she'd been out for her big run and on the rope but she still proceeded to get up on our bed and pee everywhere!!!.... my wife flipped!!

why would she do that?
is she telling us something or should she be out longer?.... is she leaving a scent on our bed?.... is she mad at us? or is it a simple accident?

thanks

jimmi
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Old 04-08-2004, 08:30 PM
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hello hello
we've also been blocking the bsmnt with a child-gate so she cant sneak down and pee.... she has been reall really good.....

tonight though, the kids were downstairs and she was upstairs.... she'd been out for her big run and on the rope but she still proceeded to get up on our bed and pee everywhere!!!.... my wife flipped!!

why would she do that?
is she telling us something or should she be out longer?.... is she leaving a scent on our bed?.... is she mad at us? or is it a simple accident
Child-gate = good idea I also use child gates (i foster dogs often) and they are a great help. You were right on target with most of your plans... it should be big enough for them to get up, turn around and lay down comfertably... thats about it.
Keeping the kennel in the kitchen with the door open will hopefully make her more comfortable with it and see it as place of refuge. I think this is a good idea. Reinforce this by giving her treats (but not too many) when she goes in by herself, and praising her.
You may or may not need to keep her crated once she is older. When she grows you will need a bigger one. I keep my adult dogs in the kitchen (kept in with baby gates) if there is a problem. It really depends on the dog.
Good exercise is a key to not having an exceedingly hyper dog. Exercise, exercise, exercise.
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:04 PM
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Child-gate = good idea I also use child gates (i foster dogs often) and they are a great help. You were right on target with most of your plans... it should be big enough for them to get up, turn around and lay down comfertably... thats about it.
Keeping the kennel in the kitchen with the door open will hopefully make her more comfortable with it and see it as place of refuge. I think this is a good idea. Reinforce this by giving her treats (but not too many) when she goes in by herself, and praising her.
You may or may not need to keep her crated once she is older. When she grows you will need a bigger one. I keep my adult dogs in the kitchen (kept in with baby gates) if there is a problem. It really depends on the dog.
Good exercise is a key to not having an exceedingly hyper dog. Exercise, exercise, exercise.

My dog is 6 months old nad never goes to the washroom in the house. its all about feeding your dog and always watching your puppy..I never left my dog unattended in the house was always under a watchful eye and if she did start to pee i would grab her by the scruff of her neck and firmly give her a shake saying NO, then run outside with her and after she was done lots of praise and a reward(TREAT) and in the evening i would not feed her late at night but i would wake up and take her outside always saying do u need to pee? after about 2 half months she was potty trained. As for feeding your dog do not free feed her! in the am feed your dog and if she doesnt eat take the food away after 10 min and try later that night. and if you are not home all day do not feed her before work, she will mess up the house... hopes this helps

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