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Old 01-29-2013, 12:03 PM
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I keep my hands behind my back and even click behind my back because otherwise I'll catch myself luring. Luring is what comes naturally to me though, but Cricket is starting to get the hang of free shaping. Bamm still doesn't get it and will get frustrated so I'm taking the shaping thing slow with him. Joey doesn't understand luring that well OR shaping really so he's a tough cookie to work with, but he'll catch on eventually I'm sure of it.

Right now when it comes to learning to free shape, I'm really really focusing on Cricket. She has a lot more patience with me than the boys and she is so eager to make that clicker click which is why I think she is catching on to the shaping so much faster than the boys.

This is a fun learning experience for me honestly. I've always lured most of my stuff so the shaping thing is still a bit foreign to me and a super test on my patience. I really feel like shaping will advance myself as a trainer though so I'm pushing through it even though I do get frustrated at times.

As was mentioned, if you get frustrated just walk away for a bit. If I get frustrated I just ask for a behavior my dog knows already to end that session positively and then come back to work on the behavior that was frustrating me after I've had a chance to recollect myself. I like the idea of playing music in the background too. Haven't tried that, but since I tend to get frustrated easily when I'm training I might have to give that a shot.
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Cricket- Mexican Street dog (we think Xolo mix)
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:40 PM
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Rider seems to have issues when a new object is thrown into the mix. It's almost like he gets stuck and can't get past that our "usual" tool isn't there. I normally use a plate, but will switch it up to a small metal bowl and he just lays down and doesn't know what to do.

Any tips on how to get him to generalize shaping?

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Rider 2012 ACD/BCx :: Tulsa 2014 ACD
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:18 PM
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Do what works!!!

I shape and I lure depending on what i want.

For eg. Bodhi does "bad dog!" Where she buries her nose under her paw. We spent fooooooorever trying to shape the initial behaviour to build on. Eventually I drew her nose down with a treat to her leg, and clicked when she followed it. Did that 2 or 3 times the ditched the treat. She got it.

My problem is I am very easily bored of things, and lose creativity! Tend to never finish things!!! Must work on new stuff with freddo....

To start shaping though, you literally just do as people say. An object does help. You can just click them for noticing it, or sniffing it to start off. And so it begins... Lol
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