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Old 01-19-2013, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Tazwell View Post
Just for the heck of it, I looked up the size ranges for the Aussies. Dog breed info .com states: is one of the worst sites to try and find factual information on any breed, they are notorious for it.

The size range for aussies can be found simply by looking at the breed standard
"Preferred height at the withers for males is 20 to 23 inches; that for females is 18 to 21 inches, however, quality is not to be sacrificed in favor of size."

There are no size varieties of Aussies Aussies can be any size according to the standard as long as they still meet the standard and are able to do the job they were originally bred to do, herding sheep and cattle.

There is no "Standard" or "Giant" or "Toy" or "Miniature" or "Teacup" Aussies there are just plan and simple "Aussies" Whether it's 12 inches tall or 35 inches tall it's still just an "Aussie" no size classes to be named.

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Old 01-19-2013, 09:35 AM
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I'm sorry Keechak, I understand that the Australian shepherd that we know and love comes in no size varieties. I'm talking about that other breed that likes to impersonate the Aussie only smaller. I'll fix it for you.

Just for the heck of it, I looked up the size ranges for the Australian Copycat dog. Dog breed info .com states:

Height, Weight

Tea Cup - Weight: under 12 pounds (5.5 kg.)
Toy - Height: 10-14 inches (26-36 cm.)
Toy - Weight: 12-17 pounds (5.5-8 kg.)
Miniature - Height: 13-18 inches (33-46 cm.)
Miniature - Weight: 20-40 pounds (9-18 kg.)

So according to that, she would be a "teacup" copycat dog. (yuck. LOL)

But the "Miniature Copycat Dog club of America" states

Preferred height at the withers for males is fourteen (14) to eighteen (18) inches; that for females is fourteen (14) up to but not including eighteen (18) inches. Dogs or bitches above these measurements should be faulted to the degree of variance, however, quality is not to be sacrificed in favor of size. Disqualification: Below 14" at the withers.

And finally, the "Toy Copycat dog association of America" says,

II.SIZE, PROPORTION, SUBSTANCE: Size: The height for dogs and bitches is 10 inches up to 14 inches. Note: Height is determined by a line perpendicular to the ground from the top of the shoulder blades, the dog standing naturally, with forelegs parallel to line of measurement. Quality should not be sacrificed in favor of size within the guidelines of this breed standard. Dogs or bitches that are 14 inches and over will be shown as Miniature Copycat dogs and not as Toy Copycat dogs. Proportion: Measuring from the breastbone to rear of thigh and from top of the withers to the ground the Toy Copycat dog is slightly longer than tall as in 10 to 9. When viewed from the front or rear, he appears sturdy and balanced, neither racy, nor broad. Substance: Bone is moderate and in proportion to body size while maintaining a solid build.
Disqualification: Under 10 inches and 14 inches and over.

I'll have to measure the little impersonator tomorrow.
If you look at it like that, it shouldn't bother you anymore. It's a completely different breed.

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Old 01-19-2013, 09:51 AM
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Default LOL. The National Enquirer of dog information.

I think what Keechak is trying to say is that there are NO recognized/designated size varieties within these breeds. There are simply Australian Shepherds and Miniature American Shepherds, the end.

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