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Old 04-07-2006, 11:54 AM
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Lexi is 5 years old and had 30 kidney stones removed 6 months ago. Vet said 90% of all her food was converting to stones. We put her on a special diet, but stones are starting to form again. Vet says she might not survive another surgery.

Has anyone had experience with this or know of a diet that works? We don't want to lose her!!

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Old 04-07-2006, 12:09 PM
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What a freaky thing that is going on. I'm so terribly sorry.
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Old 04-07-2006, 12:10 PM
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I'm so sorry to hear that.

I moved this to the food forum so Mordy can give you some advice when she gets on.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:39 PM
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What type of stones, and what kind of drugs have been used in addition to the prescription food?
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Old 04-10-2006, 07:20 AM
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Kidney stones were "magnesium ammonium phosphate hexahydrate". No drugs, just CD canned food. I found that white vinegar dissolved a "smaller than a pea" stone in a dish after 48 hours. I cooked some green beans with vinegar and she ate them all. Don't know if it was right, but I have to try!
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:31 AM
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There is a section in Dr. Pitcairn's "Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats" about kidney stones and diets to help deal with them.

http://www.drpitcairn.com/books/pitcairn_book.html
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Old 04-10-2006, 02:55 PM
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These are struvite crystals, which form when the urine is not acidic enough. SO you have the right idea, but since the vinegar is pretty much neutralized in the stomach, it won't get to where it's needed to be effective. There are products that adjust urine pH, but they require a prescription.

If I were you, I'd look for a different vet, since one who does nothing to combat these stones but give a prescription diet (that may or may not work) doesn't seem to be competent to me. If you are open to holistic methods, traditional chinese medicine etc., look at http://www.holisticvetlist.com and see if there's someone in your area.
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Old 04-11-2006, 08:57 AM
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Pomp and Mordy,

Thanks so much!! I'm on it now!

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Old 04-12-2006, 01:48 AM
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keep us updated on how it goes!
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:30 AM
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Wow... poor little girl. I have had kidney stones and its no fun. I sure hope you fine out how to stop it.

Is there a Vet out there that can Zap the stones with ultra-sound like in humans? It hurts but it sure beats surgery. With that many stones maybe it can't be done. I wish I had more ideas for you.

I'll pray for her....please let us know how it goes.
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