I need help...

[tzigane]

Originally Posted by SevenSins

Cool. I don't find it appropriate to beg on a forum for people to fund some bleeding heart's hoarding project. Shall we agree to call it a stalemate?

But it doesn't have to be a one or the other - there's always option 3 of just plain old euthanizing, like some others have suggested. Doesn't have to be save them or snake food. And, ultimately, it's up to PitBullLover.

[sillysally]

Originally Posted by SevenSins

Cool. I don't find it appropriate to beg on a forum for people to fund some bleeding heart's hoarding project. Shall we agree to call it a stalemate?

Then don't fund it. No reason to be a dick about it.

[yoko]

I love rats and if there was a way to get a couple here I'd definitely take a couple.

But realistically you have too many pets. Take a step back and look at those pics. Some of these pets are great in group and not being handled. But a lot of them really do thrive with human interaction and even if you did get money to take them to the vet I just don't see any way you can work and still give these animals the attention you need.

I do disagree completely with telling her to feed these PETS to other animals. I get if you like snakes or other rodent eating animals but these are pets and it's obvious that she cares about them a lot.

For anyone who has ever owned rats as actual pets they are incredibly smart and bond very close to their people.

As for surgery in your situation I can't really support you trying to get that for all of them. Maybe one or two but all the ones that sound like they need help? No it's just not feasible. If you have some younger ones who are friendly and you have the money for it I could see that but really it doesn't sound like many are adoptable.

Originally Posted by SevenSins

How are these "loved pets?" They're pet store rejects that someone supposedly dumped. Makes so much more sense to spend tens or hundreds of dollars euthanizing them ("humanely" isn't a word I'd use for the method normally used by vets on small rodents, but whatever helps people sleep better) and throwing them out with the trash than it does to recycle them. I mean I guess we could donate to have them individually cremated too...

Just because the original owner ditched them doesn't mean that they aren't now loved pets. Are rescued dogs just pet store rejects? How you're wording it here makes it sound like rescued animals aren't loved and cared for pets and that's an incredibly hurtful and wrong opinion.

If you go to rat forums and mailing lists people DO get their rats cremated. Not usually individually most of them will freeze them and have it done as a group. Personally I've buried mine. The idea of having a dead frozen pet in my house kind of creeps me out. But it is something that is done.

I DO agree about euthanizing them. Most vets, even exotic animal vets, aren't very good at putting down rats. And when they do it wrong it is incredibly painful and incredibly drawn out.

I'm not going to suggest feeding pets to other animals. But you really do need to cut your numbers pretty quick. I'd contact rodent rescues in your area to see if any could help by TAKING them. Not helping with care for you to keep them but by actually taking them off your hands.

Also try ratlist. It's a mailing list I use to be on. These people can help find home for rats and they are experienced in getting rats transported. They may be able to help you out a lot.

Originally Posted by tzigane

But it doesn't have to be a one or the other - there's always option 3 of just plain old euthanizing. And, ultimately, it's up to PitBullLover.

Euthanizing a RAT involves either gassing, or shoving a needle into their heart. They'll usually ask you to leave the room when they do this because the animal typically screams in pain when this happens. And then they get tossed out with the rest of the bio-trash.

Ultimately, PitBullLover doesn't have a job or the money to pay for a vet to do this, so ultimately, it's really up to those of us who choose to donate...or not.

[kingfarvito]

Originally Posted by tzigane

But it doesn't have to be a one or the other - there's always option 3 of just plain old euthanizing, like some others have suggested. Doesn't have to be save them or snake food. And, ultimately, it's up to PitBullLover.

Thats like throwing away a whole hog, because it was someones pet. I'll take the bacon thanks.

[Renee750il]

Bre's grown up here with us. It's not like she's someone drive-by posting for help. The reason her join date doesn't look like she's been here that long is because her previous account got compromised.

Originally Posted by Renee750il

Bre's grown up here with us. It's not like she's someone drive-by posting for help. The reason her join date doesn't look like she's been here that long is because her previous account got compromised.

So? Post count or years spent on forum means someone isn't getting in over their heads? Teal wasn't a newbie either, but hey, see how well that worked out?

[Saeleofu]

I've ended up with foster dogs that were "dumped rejects"... it doesn't mean that I didn't love them, or that they didn't end up in homes where they were loved.

Gavroche was a "dumped reject" and I love him.

Tango was a "dumped reject" and I'm pretty sure his owner loves him (heck, I still love him!).

If you don't want to fund it, then don't, simple as that. I can't. That's that. Even if you DID want to fund it, that doesn't mean she HAS to do what you say. She could also reject your donation. It's not anyone else's choice what ultimately happens.

And if I had a pet pig, no, I would not eat it after it died. I have chickens, and some of them have died, and we didn't eat them - nor did we feed them to the dogs or cats. It's a personal choice.

Originally Posted by Saeleofu

Even if you DID want to fund it, that doesn't mean she HAS to do what you say. She could also reject your donation. It's not anyone else's choice what ultimately happens.

Never claimed she had to do what I say, I said she's going to be running low on options when nobody flocks to donate to the "cause."

[PitBullLove]

Screw you, SevenSins. You always succeed in making yourself sound like a heartless dumbass so I'm done responding to your posts entirely.

Concerning the aggression...they're great with people and hate other rats. They are too dominant to be housed with them. A neuter WILL fix this, I'm almost sure. As far as mammary tumors, I have never had o e come back after a spay. As far as myco, it actually CAN be treated and is relatively EASY to treat. ALL RATS besides a few strains of lab rats are born with Myco in their lungs, its a given that in the wrong conditions they will get a Myco flare up, which could lead to a secondary infection. They have all been treated for this and they have been treated for life as well. I could euthanize the girl with the lung issue but will continue searching for a way to go through with the spays and neuters. I'll just ignore the reptile food comments here.

Thanks everyone.