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Old 03-28-2006, 02:45 AM
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Just to present an alternative view, here are some impressions from Germany and other European countries:

http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/memphis_hh/memphis.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/fachenfelde/basko.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/burg...e_ca/calle.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/boel...en_s/santo.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/boel...hen/quincy.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/bren...rg/asterix.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/bernecker_schl/ares_ber.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/bay_loewen/fernando.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/karl...rund/karlo.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/aurachgrund/hajo.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/ascomannis_g/gitano.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/laendtor/excalibur.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/mooreiche/ghandy.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/nemesis/bellini.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/neme.../caliandro.htm
http://www.dobermann.com/rueden/weserems/nitsche.htm

This thread is not meant to continue any pro- or anti- docking/cropping debates, I just wanted to show some dogs from the country of origin of the breed, where they now keep their natural ears and tail.
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Old 03-28-2006, 02:48 AM
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I've seen so many beautiful examples of both it's unreal...I do feel it's odd that we insist on clipping them in some societies...on the other hand I feel it's odd that some people insist on considering it mutilation in others. I can't help but to look at it in the same manner I look at circumcision and piercings and stuff. Eventually this kind of nonsense is going to be applied to human beings and...and that's another debate...

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Old 03-28-2006, 03:00 AM
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Wow thanks Mordy those pics are amazing. Those dogs really do look stunning, I very rarely see a natural dobe. I want one .
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:20 AM
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IMO a doberman is a doberman with or without ears and a tail. I would prefer if cropping ceased to exist. But unfortunetely even if they do end up banning it in the US, I feel that it will only add to the breed's troubles. Bad breeders and bad people will go "underground" to get their dogs cropped. And the RSPCA can moniter it and question people, but then that ties them up when other cruelty cases arise they should be working on.

I guess it's no easy fix. Now tails I can live without those! But the procedure is much easier to live with then cutting off the ears. JMHO
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:42 AM
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Over here dobes are shown with natural ears, although they tend to have cropped tails, so to me its strange seeing a dobe with cropped ears lol.

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Old 03-28-2006, 07:49 AM
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I love the tail

I actually didn't find them odd to see.. It looked how it should be
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Some rotties:

http://www.mistylakespetresort.com/i...iler_xena1.jpg

http://www.vomfleischer.de/Orla/Orla04.jpg

http://www.vets.org.nz/images/TailDo...Rottweiler.jpg

http://www.users.bigpond.com/kameraden/Winslow.JPG

http://www.wesburgs.com/TillySideTailDownApril02.jpg

http://www.plumfairy.com/stancezingZ.jpg

GSP:

http://www.vets.org.nz/images/TailDocking/Izzy.JPG

Boxer:

http://www.vets.org.nz/images/TailDocking/Boxer.jpg

http://www.greenacresboxerrescue.com/resources/cue4.jpg

http://www.brunotausz.com/images/Boxer_with_tail.jpg

http://www.deutscher-boxer.de/index.htm

http://www.boxerklubben.nu/omrasen.htm

http://tjekmig.dk/hotornot/boxer/images/gizmo.jpg

http://www.boxer26.de/pix/boxer/dunkler-boxer.jpg


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ill admit seeing the tails is a little strange, but im so used to seeing them natural ears (im from england origionally) and prefer the ears natural...

the tail i still think should be allowed for working dogs (mostly because ive seen a spaniel break its tail while working in the feild and the sounds that dog made echoed through the 23 acre feild like a banchee!)

but looks wise i think if the dog is bred the way it should be and looks as close to standard as possible...the natural tail and ears just add to the natural beauty.
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:16 AM
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(mostly because ive seen a spaniel break its tail while working in the feild and the sounds that dog made echoed through the 23 acre feild like a banchee!)
lol - Have to say though, my dog jumped off a wall, did NO damage to herself what so ever and screamed the park down. People were coming up to ask what was wrong

So, that isn't much to go on lol!
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