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Old 03-26-2006, 06:12 PM
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When it bred true to standard every time.
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Very few sporting breeds of dogs have had as interesting a history as the Chesapeake Bay Retriever -- which in 1964 became the official dog of the State of Maryland.

It is well documented that in the year of 1807, an English ship, trading between Newfoundland and England, was wrecked off of the coast of Maryland. The cargo and crew were rescued by an American ship on its way to Baltimore. Among the cargo taken aboard the American ship CANTON, were two Newfoundland puppies.

The male dog was subsequently named "Sailor," and the bitch was named "Canton," after the rescuing vessel.

The dog, which was red in color became the property of John Mercer of West River, Maryland. The bitch which was black and was given to Dr. James Stuart of Sparrows Point, Maryland, in gratitude for the hospitality shown the sailors of the wrecked brig. Both Mercer and Dr. Stuart were ardent hunters of waterfowl and soon discovered that the two dogs were exceptional retrievers.

Their retrieving abilities made their offspring much sought after by local duck hunters. By the mid-1800s the breed was clearly distinguishable. These dogs soon became legendary for their skill and stamina working in the ice-choked waters. Ducks and geese were abundant, but the icy water and rough seas of the Bay area made gunning a tough game
Taken from http://www.northernflight.com/Cbr-hist.htm


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When it bred true to standard every time.
Ok - so that's what they are currently doing... Trying to achieve the standard. Give them chance!
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:15 PM
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Unique: Chesapeake Bay Retrievers are the result of crosses with Newfoundlands, hounds, setters, water spaniels and other dogs and were first recognized as a distinct breed in America in the middle of the 19th century.
I believe you posted this?!

What is the difference to your breed and what they ar trying to achieve?
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:17 PM
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There is quite a difference in time between the mid 1800's and 1990.
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:19 PM
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Not in the grand scheme of things... In breed development that is a twinkle in an eye!! That really is very recent.
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:21 PM
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And besides.. Date is irrelevant.. It's the principle and morals. They are doing nothing more than what happened when your breed developed. The difference is, it is happening today. It is a tad hypocritical to say developing new breeds is immoral and own a pretty new breed, which came from mixing other breeds, yourself.
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Chessies were not bred just to look good, to be fancy, to look like a wolf.

They were bred for a purpose: "Chesapeake Bay Retrievers are the result of crosses with Newfoundlands, hounds, setters, water spaniels and other dogs and were first recognized as a distinct breed in America in the middle of the 19th century. They were ducking dogs used by market hunters for retrieving waterfowl and protecting the day's catch. These early objectives in breeding and selecting for outstanding ducking dogs has endured in today's Chessies - they are still remarkably tough working dogs and loyal, protective companions."
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:25 PM
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Ok.. so the purpose was different. The reason was the same. There were already lots of brilliant retrievers out there. But some guy said - I bet I can make one better, and off he went. There are a few wolf like dogs out there, and some guy has said, I bet I can make one more like it, and a better personality and they are in the middle of trying.

Explain where the difference is other than the date?
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:27 PM
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Ready to stop beating a dead horse? I am.
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