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Old 01-18-2005, 01:25 PM
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We had visitors yesterday, an aunt and 2 cousins, a 13-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. It wasn't the first time they came, but it was the first time ever that they stayed here all day Blondie was happily playing with them, running all over the house, playing fetch and chasing each other, he had the most fun with the boy (go figure?) but the girl... she's a little annoying I have to admit (she even annoyed the soul out of my poor gran, mom, sister and me ). She insisted on picking Blondie up, and she managed once, but then was afraid and didn't know how to hold him, so I took him from her (didn't want her dropping him or hurting him) and then she tried to take him from me and he barked at her and almost bit her (I'm sure you understand how that "barking" went).

After that, they insisted on playing with him and I tried to stay around, because I didn't want him to bite her. I wonder if you also get this feeling, like it's being too much for the dog and he might be building tiredness up? Anyway I feel like I know Blondie this far, and it was being too much for him. But what do you do when the girl's too annoying and she insists on playing with the dog, and grabbing his arms and legs and ears even if you tell her kindly "Don't do that, darling, he doesn't like it"

By the end of the day, he had growled, barked and tried to bite her two more times. Now, I know she was pestering him, but I was a little scared because he's not used to long-stay visitors and I didn't like his being agressive like that. Just because he was tired and probably annoyed.

The girl decided to get on our treadmill and walk, and that seemed to bother him a lot, too. When we first got Blondie, he was six weeks old, and he slept in the room where the treadmill was. It's not like it's his property, but I found that so interesting because he barked at her and tried to bite her while she was on the thing, and then I had to pick him up and take him away from her (he wasn't agressive to me at all ) and today he's peed twice near the treadmill (he didn't do that before yesterday)!!

These people left at 8 o'clock in the evening and then he didn't even want to finish his food because while he was eating, the girl came to him again and he got mad Today he's been sleepy, but still playful and "almost" back to normal, because he growled at me when I tried to fetch some cookies he didn't seem to be eating (he didn't eat them, but was protecting them all the same). What do you guys make of it? Should he get more visitors, or is it just a normal way to react?

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Old 01-18-2005, 02:04 PM
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Poor Blondie, too bad the parents of the children didnt step in to prevent them from doing these things to Blondie. My Yorkies dont react too well when we have several people over and they dont get along with children at all. My two are not used to being around kids for one and most of the times they have its been a negative experience. I have a friend who allows her 5 year old daughter to run and kick at my dogs. Of course my dogs bark at her in self defense and run off to hide. My friend says nothing to her daughter about this and in the mean time I look like an uptight ninny for telling the child to stop. Now when kids come over they shy away or bark at them, what do you do?


I hope this has been the only time Blondie was "rough up" (lol) by little people and it doesnt shape they way she is around them in future like mine.
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:06 PM
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in my opinion it sounds like he was very overwhelmed, i had the same thing happen to our dogs, a friend of mine came over withe her 2 boys, 11 & 5...they would not let the dogs alone, so i put the dogs in the kitchen and put the baby gate up and told the boys that the dogs had enough and needed a break, well here they are...at the gate..the dogs where fine, they werent growling or anything, i was worried, and kept checking on them, i turned around and i heard it, the envibale let me alone growl...i told the boys, ok thats enough now...so they left them alone for a whole whopping 10 minutes...then they where back at them..the akita snapped, he had enough..didnt bite them but it was his warning to them to let me alone...

i would say the next time you have children visitors, let them play for a bit if you like, but then if blondie gets tired of the kids, put him a peaceful room all of his own...

beleive me, its less stressful on you and the dog....
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:10 PM
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also, like cidney said, my friend did not intervene at all...and it really pissed me off, i have 3 children and the dogs love my kids...and are extremely tollerate of my kids, but ofcourse i dont let my kids torture my dogs or any of my pets...i teach them how to treat an animal....some peoples parenting skills with pets are not that great....
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:11 PM
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I think you should have told the kids that he needs his quiet time now. He's young and he can easily get stressed out. You'd have put a baby down for nap and made sure that he wasn't bothered. Your pup needs the same thing. I don't think you can blame him for getting upset. A toddler or young child would be too.

Your puppy had a bad experience. He was getting cranky and tried to tell you that he was tired. So, you asked what you do when the child won't stop bothering him and won't listen. You take the pup out of the room, tell her she can't play with him anymore and if she doesn't listen then you tell her that your house has some rules and she needs to follow them. If she still doesn't listen then gently take it up with her parents. And if that doesn't work then don't invite them to your house, at least while the pup is young and cute. Meet them for dinner or go bowling. At least, that's what I do. I don't like it when people come into my house and are disrespectful.

I don't think you have anything serious to worry about. First of all, you said this child was annoying. You never know what this kids did to your pup when your back was turned. Kids aren't known for their compassion and insight.

It would still be a good idea to socialize him with a lot of friendly people. That's always a good idea. But they do have a limit on how long they can pay attention or tolerate things.

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Old 01-18-2005, 03:01 PM
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Yes, YES to what's been said!

Now, you guys know I'm pretty tolerant. BUT, there is one house rule. This is my home; it is my animals' home. Everyone else is a visitor. Children - and adults - must treat my animals with respect. No argument, no getting around it. I won't tolerate anyone torturing, teasing or otherwise mistreating them.

It sounds like Blondie had every reason to be snappy with the child. Frankly, she sounds like a real brat. While you don't want Blondie to be snappy with visitors, he needs to be able to expect his home to be a place where he is protected. Peeing next to the treadmill was a statement telling you he felt threatened by this child. Remember, too, that Blondie isn't 100% well and he probably feels more vulnerable. The stress also isn't good for his health.

Whew! Sorry to sound so mean - it wasn't directed at you at all. I just get so irritated with people who let their children mistreat animals. Those are the ones that get bitten and then they start screaming that the dog is a bad dog and needs to be put down. And little Blondie's been through so much already.

It sounds like Blondie's going to need a few days to decompress after all that. Lots of attention and lots of naps. Poor little guy. And rest assured, if he'd really intended to bite the little hellion, he'd have gotten her. No child is faster than a dog.

If they come to visit again, you probably should give Blondie a break and put him in your room for a nice long nap anytime you can't be right there to protect him from the child. He's going to remember her and won't like her. If she or her parents say anything about her wanting to play with Blondie, just explain in a polite tone of voice that the child teased him so badly the last time that now he's afraid of her and you just can't allow her to be around him. They need to understand that it is NOT Blondie's fault - especially if he does bite her at some point - that the fault lies squarely on their shoulders for allowing the child to treat an animal so roughly. They need to stop and think about what might happen when she torments a much larger dog - or a cat. Cat's can do a lot of damage when they're cornered.
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Old 01-18-2005, 03:03 PM
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When I'm faced with that situation, I will usually put my two dogs in my bedroom and shut the door. That way they can be in peace and its actually a treat for them because, they aren't allowed in our bedrooms alone. All our friends with kids are very dog oriented, however, and will instruct their kids to leave the poor dogs alone if need be and they have no problem with me instructing the kids either.


While I agree with getting your dog socialized, I do believe there is a responsibility on parents to get their children socialized with dogs also. Meaning to understand and respect the dog's actions and feelings. I've always told my kids when they would hug our dogs just a little too tight and they will give off a growl, that that is the way they say "LAY OFF" LOL Granted its usually just a tiny growl, but that's the way dog's communicate. How else could they get that point accross?
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Thank you everybody for your replies.

Their parents didn't even come, they're not very "sociable" so to speak, they came with their grandmother who's all tired and cranky. It's annoying like, u said, we have some home-made fences to put in doorframes when we don't want Blondie to go somewhere (like my grandma's bedroom, where he always finds nice stuff to steal ) and we put some for Blondie not to come near the kids but they kept coming to the little fence and kept insisting on playing with him when it was obvious he didn't want to anymore.

I'm worried about his future reactions around kids because he was happily playing with them when they first came. The stay just turned to be too long, and yes I'm sure the puppy was just so tired and stressed out. But I hate to be the "bad one" when I have to tell the kids "don't bother the dog", "don't do this, don't do that", "let him alone" and the adult responsible for the kids starts making faces, and then if he growls and barks at them, they still make faces like, it's not just me the bad one, but the dog too?

Datyn's Mom I completely understand how annoying it is that they just won't leave the poor dog alone, and it becomes overwhelming, but what do you do when the kids aren't yours? They do have limits, and regarding the fence and the quiet spaces? It's so unfair that he can't be part of the fun, because of some silly kids who can't let him alone, so he gets all moody and wants to snap them, so they think the puppy's dangerous.
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Old 01-18-2005, 03:40 PM
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Datyn's Mom I completely understand how annoying it is that they just won't leave the poor dog alone, and it becomes overwhelming, but what do you do when the kids aren't yours? They do have limits, and regarding the fence and the quiet spaces? It's so unfair that he can't be part of the fun, because of some silly kids who can't let him alone, so he gets all moody and wants to snap them, so they think the puppy's dangerous.


like i said, these where my friends kids, my kids respect our pets...put your foot down, tellthem to leave the dog alone, explain to them like this....

"you know when you get cranky and want to be left alone" make the child understand and be some what on the kids level...they seem to understand better...

if not, just let them know that the dog has had enough...you need to be asurtive...who cares if you look like the bad one...i always look like the bad one...but oyu know what...it saves my pets from becoming endangered, or eve nworse put to sleep, because of biting...
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Old 01-18-2005, 03:55 PM
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ok now that i can sit down...lol...im not saying that your guy is going to bite anyone...you know i dont like looking like the bad guy, but i have to, being a pet owner, you have responsiblity towards your pet to keep him safe and people around you safe, not saying your dog is mean, but heres an example...my old rotty..he loved kids...until one day my uncles step-son hurt him, now the dog did not bite him, but growled at him, with that my uncle kicked my dog hard...i flipped out...from then on the dog hated kids..because of my uncle...he associated kids with getting hurt...not by the kid but by an adult...it really pissed me off, and not only did my dog not like kids, he tryed to attack my uncle every chance he got...

now i know that most likely will not happen in your house...but you never know when the dog has just had enough and will snap...and then you have to deal with people screaming at you, because you didnt contain your dog, even though you tried...being nice, its just not part of the deal...yes socialize the dog, let him be around kids, but when he has had enough...put him in another room, believe me, he will thank you for that...and you will have peace...and not have to worry...


people do need to learn how to respect others pets...but that does not always happen...
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