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Old 12-15-2012, 02:51 PM
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I know, it was more repeating myself because I keep hearing "if teachers had had guns that day..."

I don't know - but guns and drugs are a social problem and should be addressed differently than doing drug sweeps and gun searches on campus. Thats not going to help those who bring drugs or guns not use drugs or bring guns to school again. IMO the school is missing the bigger problem. Why are kids even bringing drugs and guns to school? Taking away the weed or the gun isn't going to prevent it.
i agree on , this whole world need to address social issues. we are not unique , these kinds of things happen all over the world.
The school can only do what they can with the time allotted. The cop also runs a couple after school clubs and there is an ongoing intervention program and a mediator program . the school tries , but it s a society problem. sadly human life is cheap .


it is a huge complicated issue. and the answer is not so easy as to say do this and all will be well.

we will have to take many many little steps that all tie in. guns / drugs / education / jobs / families . there are so many things that contribute.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:20 PM
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The responsibility lies with the parents (weather they are adult shooters or not) not society ... Society is a bad place but not everyone grows up to be a bad person even tho we all grow up in the same society.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:51 PM
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We need new mental health legislation. We need a crack down on the gangs(I know a large number of those gun deaths are the not so innocent killing each other and I hate to say I don't care, but they are gonna kill each other one way or another. Lock them up!)

We need long term care if people dont take their meds. This is for the safety of others and them! We need to stop the three day turn around. It's not working.

This is not about guns. It would be about bombs next. Look at the mentally ill who push someone off platforms, stab people. Etc.

I agree. We've got to treat the problem, not try to squelch the symptoms.
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Are things really that bad over there?

I'm actually gobsmacked.... Seriously. Guns and drugs in schools? Maybe they should spend the gun and police wages on addressing social issues so they don't need guns and police!!

That is insanity.
Oh yes. I can't say I didn't participate either...I went to high school up here in MA for 1.5 years, lots of drugs, lots of drama. My friends would have water bottles with vodka or mixed drinks and we'd drink in school.
Moved to FL...3800 kids in the school. Drug buffet, whatever you wanted you could find. I remember buying pot off people in class . I went to school stoned when I could drive. Plenty of people were much worse than I was..I know you could get coke, x, beans, pills. There was violence, weekly bomb threats, gangs in nearby schools, racial tension...and this was NOT a city, this was the suburbs and a rich community. We had armed police patrolling, and the two schools I went to were built by someone who built jails, it was built for lockdown. I graduated in 2005.

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The responsibility lies with the parents (weather they are adult shooters or not) not society ... Society is a bad place but not everyone grows up to be a bad person even tho we all grow up in the same society.
Not always.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:14 PM
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Are things really that bad over there?

I'm actually gobsmacked.... Seriously. Guns and drugs in schools? Maybe they should spend the gun and police wages on addressing social issues so they don't need guns and police!!

That is insanity.
When I was in high school back in the late 90's we had drug dogs sweep the school at least once a year-lockers and cars outside, and we were in a low crime, small town community. Heroine was and still is a big issue in that town.

Actually it was a drug dog sweep that scared me straight. I had some pot in my purse when they locked down the school and sent the dogs through. My purse was with me in class and they didn't go into the classrooms, but it put the fear of God in me. The second I got out of class I went straight to the bathroom, got rid of it, and have never even been tempted to touch the stuff again.

I don't want random teachers armed, but I would be perfectly fine with an armed police officer at school.
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Oh yes. I can't say I didn't participate either...I went to high school up here in MA for 1.5 years, lots of drugs, lots of drama. My friends would have water bottles with vodka or mixed drinks and we'd drink in school.
Moved to FL...3800 kids in the school. Drug buffet, whatever you wanted you could find. I remember buying pot off people in class . I went to school stoned when I could drive. Plenty of people were much worse than I was..I know you could get coke, x, beans, pills. There was violence, weekly bomb threats, gangs in nearby schools, racial tension...and this was NOT a city, this was the suburbs and a rich community. We had armed police patrolling, and the two schools I went to were built by someone who built jails, it was built for lockdown. I graduated in 2005.



Not always.
When my mom taught middle school they had to ban hair products in refillable bottles because girls were filling hair spray bottles with vodka and spraying it in each others mouths in the bathrooms.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:31 PM
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they have banned hand sanitizer her because the kids are diluting it and drinking it.
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When my mom taught middle school they had to ban hair products in refillable bottles because girls were filling hair spray bottles with vodka and spraying it in each others mouths in the bathrooms.
Gosh ... That's pretty bad if they are willing to go that far :/ I graduated in 2001 & I'm sure there were probs like that but I don't remember seeing them but I also didn't run in those circles either ... Most of it was done at house parties.
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Drugs were around when I was in highschool, as well, but I'd still venture to say that the using group was the minority.

I never touched the crap, not even marijuana. I never had the desire to. My brothers, on the other hand, are addicts (1 is no longer using, but has been on Suboxone for a few years now.....sooooo, it's safe to say that's his addiction, and shame on doctors for feeding it). I have another brother happily combining pot and whatever else to his government-offered methadone. He's been on methadone for more than 2 years (so much for that whole 6-month detox regime they claim it to be....the government loves their drug money, too).

In college, I knew many more people, and that includes some international athletes and students from European countries, that all started their drug use long before coming to America. And these were great athletes and incredibly smart students who were acing their way through college. So I'm not too sure that I'd say America has the market in the drug world.
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I had a good friend who was an addict: weed, cocaine & heroine ... Speed & ex on occasion ... Never meth thank god cause that stuff is horrid :/ so I saw first hand what drugs do & that was enough to scare me off them.

I will admit to being a pot head for a few years but it made me I to a fat lazy slob so I quit & don't miss a day of it.
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