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Old 07-10-2004, 08:09 PM
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Here's a link to a good start of a list of breed specific legislation. Read at your own peril; it will probably send your blood pressure up.

http://www.sidyboysfoolin.com/BSLcountries.html
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:58 AM
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The whole concept attacks the wrong end of the problem - the dogs. The owners are the problem.

Also, it's grossly unjust that medium to large dogs are always assumed to be the problem. I've personally never had a problem with any of the large breeds, and I used to go surveying with my Dad in all kinds of areas, so I had plenty of opportunities! The only problems I've ever had were two different occasions and locations, while walking on a city sidewalk (where there is a leash law) when two different 'ankle-biters' ran out of their unfenced yards and bit me. I asked around, and the neighbors and people who routinely walked that way had the same problem, but since they were small dogs, it wasn't considered a problem and the animal control people refused to even issue a warning to the owners.
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:18 PM
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The whole concept attacks the wrong end of the problem - the dogs. The owners are the problem.
This drives me absolutly crazy... Why don't they ban stupid people instead? Probably because there's too many of them and no place to put them...HA...
We have the same problem around here with little dogs. A block from my house is a lady with 5 little dogs, 3 poodles/poodle mixes, one chihuahua and one weinner dog (i say this because its a mix of who knows what, but its long and low to the ground). She never keeps them leashed even though there are strict leash laws, but she never gets in trouble. They're vicious little things, attacked me and Maddie twice. (we never walk that way anymore) I had half the temptation to let Maddie bite back and defend herself, but that wouldn't be very responsible, would it? Everyones complained, especailly the mail lady!
To anyone who lives where there are strict pit bull/staff bans: be careful if you get an American Bulldog puppy...

Do you guys know of any websites are places to e-mail about reporting actual fighting dogs? My Uncle's girlfriend's brother breeds them and fights them in Mansfield where I know, and that list proves it, there illegal to own there. Has training crap in his backyard, 'practices' back there & keeps the wounded in the garage if they're 'fixable' after a fight. Has fighting cocks too, not to mention he's a total pot head (can't they smell that from the road?!) I'm in a tight situation reporting this, my uncle's Girlfriend... my uncle... I don't think my family would appriciate this because they're about to get married... Any advice would help me a lot
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Old 07-13-2004, 10:44 PM
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If it is dog fighting, I would start with your local sheriff's office and Human Society.
I would report anyone abusing dogs and expecially for sport/profiting illegal activity.
Your family should be proud that you did report him as he is breaking the law and will eventually tarnish your good families name and reputation if you decide not to 'handle your own'. At least that is the way it is where I am from

Really though. Dog fighting is very harmful to the dogs, it adds to the dog problems of the world, it shows dogs at their worst, it distorts people's thinking on dogs, and it is just plain sadistic for anyone to actually enjoy watching animals hurt and kill each other for spectator sport.

I'd be having a talk with my Unc, he should take the lead in handling the matter. If I were Unc, I would have sis turn him in. He just might find out what she is made of at the same time.

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Old 07-14-2004, 08:27 AM
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There are usually anonymous methods for reporting this type of thing. Often, too, it's easier to report a crime - such as the drugs and dog fighting - anonymously than it is to report to the humane society or animal control.

You can get a report of the complaint call, including the name, address and phone number, from most animal control agencies if someone has made a complaint against your animal, so in a case like this where anonymity would be desirable, I'd go with reporting to the sheriff's department or other law enforcement. Actually, I'd report it to two different agencies, say the sheriff's department and the police or your state bureau of investigation, so that if someone in law enforcement is protecting these people (it happens more than you'd like to think) you have two separate entities that are looking at it, making it very difficult to continue the cover. DO NOT, under any circumstances, make any calls to report this from your home telephone. Your state bureau of investigation should have a website; I'd check there to see about anonymous tipping. They should be very interested in animal fighting rings.

I definitely would not confront or talk to any of the family members about this. People who engage in these types of activities are potentially very dangerous, especially if the case escalates into something that involves the authorities trying to round up more dog and cock fighters - which may very well happen. After all, you can't have these fights without a crowd and an arena.

I don't want to think about you or your loved ones being put into any jeopardy, Brattina.

Sorry, Chaz, ordinarily I'd agree with you about putting the people involved on the spot and seeing how they stepped up, but it's just not worth the risks involved in a case like this. And, when someone's in love, they do tend to be blind to things they don't want to see. We've all been there!

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Old 07-14-2004, 11:41 AM
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Yeah, you have a very very good point.
Just because that is what I would do doesn't mean it is for anyone else's situation.

Your way sounds much more effective and less confronting

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Old 07-14-2004, 07:49 PM
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You can get a report of the complaint call, including the name, address and phone number, from most animal control agencies if someone has made a complaint against your animal, so in a case like this where anonymity would be desirable, I'd go with reporting to the sheriff's department or other law enforcement. Actually, I'd report it to two different agencies, say the sheriff's department and the police or your state bureau of investigation, so that if someone in law enforcement is protecting these people (it happens more than you'd like to think) you have two separate entities that are looking at it, making it very difficult to continue the cover. DO NOT, under any circumstances, make any calls to report this from your home telephone. Your state bureau of investigation should have a website; I'd check there to see about anonymous tipping. They should be very interested in animal fighting rings.
I was hoping for some advice like this... As it is not my town/area (I am a bit farther north) I'll look to see if there are any sites before I make a call because it is long distance. I'd feel more comfertable typing anyway.

I definitely would not confront or talk to any of the family members about this. People who engage in these types of activities are potentially very dangerous, especially if the case escalates into something that involves the authorities trying to round up more dog and cock fighters - which may very well happen. After all, you can't have these fights without a crowd and an arena.
This is what I was afriad of. I know if I let it slip to my mom, she would let it slip to her brother, then to his girlfriend, and the next thing I know the mafia will be after me. (Sorry, but I tend to joke when I get nervous about things)

I don't want to think about you or your loved ones being put into any jeopardy, Brattina.
Thanks, that means a lot to me
And, when someone's in love, they do tend to be blind to things they don't want to see. We've all been there!
This is so true! Exactly what I'm afraid of! Although my intentions are good they will only see it as me messing up their plans of becoming a family, sad as it is to think.

Thanks so much for the advice... I'll let you know what comes of it. I know how horrible fights are and I'm already angry with myself that I didn't do something sooner.
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Old 07-15-2004, 07:30 AM
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Brattina, here's a link with a list of contacts. I'd try the Investigative unit contact and the Attorney General first. Neither may be the right place, but they should be able to get you to the right office.

Dealing with the State, I wouldn't worry so much about calling from my home or using the e-mail, but I definitely wouldn't take that chance with any local authorities.

http://ohio.gov/contacts.stm
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When are people going to learn Pitbulls are not bad.......
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Old 07-19-2004, 07:45 AM
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Amazing how much sheer stupidity there is out there, isn't it? But at least she was teaching her kid not to just arbitrarily walk up to any strange dog.
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