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Old 11-29-2012, 04:20 PM
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:21 PM
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Trent would rush at the intruder and plant himself in front of him barking up a frenzy. Usually that's enough to deter most unannounced visitors, but if the intruder tried to push past Trent to get into the house, Trent would probably just bounce alongside him sniffing him in curiosity. I have never noticed strange clothing to bother Trent (and he's met people in costumes), and don't believe the bitesuit would make him uneasy. He'd probably tag along and hang out next to the intruder for a while before getting bored and returning to his couch to observe quietly.

When it comes to people, Trent's territorial instinct never extends to more than an excited alert bark, there is never any real warning behind the noise. Not that someone breaking in will know the difference between an enthusiastic dog and a threatening one, which concerns me.

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IMO the only thing MOST dogs are really protective of, is their owners. Threaten that and most dogs would react.
but wander around and maybe steal a few things? Nope. Once the initial "WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE!! NEW PERSON! BARK BARK WHO ARE YOU!!" ...I don't expect much.
This, essentially. I know if someone came at me and tried to kill me, Trent's defensive drives would absolutely turn on and he'd act on that. But if they broke into the house and I was not there panicking and screaming, Trent would happily hang out with them while they ransacked the house.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:22 PM
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I'm not really surprised... especially about the pitbull lol.

Grace would be very happy to escort the visitor/intruder through our property. I can see it now... 'oh, hai...' *tail going a million miles an hour* *big grin*, she'd probably roll over for a belly rub and then follow them around the house, possibly complete with 'woowoo' greetings.

Abby barks when friends visit, so I'd expect the same behaviour. I suspect that she would absolutely freak out about the protective suit. I highly doubt she would attack though or even bite unless cornered (she is honestly more bark than bite and I've never really put her in a position where she feels the need to bite).

If the intruder/visitor had enough time on his hands (and wasn't forced to run away screaming from the incessant barking), Abby would eventually get used to him. Once accepted, she'll be your friend for life. She will still bark at you next time you come and visit, but she barks at me coming home too... excitement/learned behaviour.

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Old 11-29-2012, 04:37 PM
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That's one thing I never had any doubt of with my old dog. It was weird, she just knew. If you weren't a family member, good luck getting in the house when we weren't home. If we were home she just watched you. Friendly as can be, but watched everything. Rarely made noise unless it was dark out and at odd times.

She was what I'd like all my shepherds to be like. Social, good balance, great nerves and had a good sense of when to be on and when not. She seemed to have that unexplainable way of sensing people's intentions.

My two current ones? pffft. Zoe would bark and when you came inside she'd probably sniff like crazy if someone acted not confrontational and basically ignored her and didn't make any sudden movements, they could probably go thru whatever they wanted.

Yoli? not much of a guard dog. She wouldn't even bark. Probably wouldn't even come over to take a sniff.

which is ok, I don't have my dogs to protect my house when I am not home or when I am for that matter, they'd be behind me and a gun if there was trouble. At least that's where I'd want them to be.

But if one of the family was involved in danger I think Zoe would engage, at least until it got too heavy then it would be more show. Yoli would have make the person lunch. She doesn't back down from any threat. She likes it, it turns her on.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:40 PM
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The danger of hoping for and training a dog to bite intruders.. is how does a dog really know what an intruder is? A stranger in the house? That's a disaster waiting to happen. A stranger at night? again..disaster. Someone there when their owners aren't? Disaster. what about dog walkers? landlords? etc..
A stranger in my house is a fair danger, the only risk is if there was an emergency and even then I have a handful of people I can pay to get the dogs. We don't use a dog walker and we're extremely careful about who we pay to pet sit. Funny enough I trust almost anyone with my pit bulls but overly confident and under-experienced people are going to get themselves hurt and my dogs traumatized with many choice behaviors, imo.

My dogs are defensive by nature, prior to training which encourages the behaviors on the field, though so it's a different expectation.

Backup has been discouraged, never encouraged, about guarding the car and yet he is a dangerous car guard. We can't leave him in the car alone and especially not with Sloan they've already broken the window once.

Arnold however would be adorable like the little staffordshire. Shamoo, who knows? She's always been an alert barker but I'm pretty sure she'd just give someone a concussion out of love.

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Old 11-29-2012, 04:43 PM
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If some dude came in wearing a bitesuit, it would be ON!

They aren't stupid they know the difference between a stranger and a friend whose been given the c'mon in! A stranger coming in ... would not go well for that stranger. But they are crated when I'm not present and honestly I don't care if someone steals my stuff (though who is going to want my crappy stuff?)... thats why I've got renter's insurance. So unless Scout feels the need to open her kennel latch (she does know how...) they would be safely crated if a robber came in.

Generally I crate Scout if a maintenance person comes in. She's only ever gone apeshit about one stranger coming in... not sure what it was about her, but only ever that one person. When the roomates had internet installed, I already had Scout crated, but had to kennel Lily for one of the internet dudes to come in and troubleshoot the box thingy for it. She wasn't keen on him coming inside. Which is fine with me. Normally though her response is just to stick close to me and keep an eye on things if its someone weird, like my neighbor lady a few years back that was a real weirdo.

They generally do not even bark at the door at all. Lily only barks at the door if its a stranger, which doesn't include pizza delivery or the UPS guy, etc. in her book lol.

They go to my mom's office with me on Fridays and are the official greeters, lol. They've got pretty good sense of situational appropriateness. Never once had them do anything weird at work or in public. Good dogs!

Also I pretty much only trust my mother to babysit them for me. BUt thats more because of the high energy and smart end of things than anything else. They totally blow off people they don't know as far as following commands, etc.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:48 PM
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Robyn would skitter around them or flat out run and hide. Trin would make a whole lot of noise and if they came close enough she would try dismantle them. Wassim would run over with his whole back end wagging.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:52 PM
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Tucker would flip out and I believe he would bite them if they turned their back on him. He might be too afraid to actually bite if they were facing him but he might give it a go, not sure what he'd do if they challenged him/tried to scare him off.
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Growing up we had a GSP who did have a protective streak. I can't say for sure what she would do in that situation, but she did bail up my brother's friend who came to our house at some awful hour and tried to cut through the back yard (obviously not a great idea). No bites, but he did have to be rescued from her. She was really good with visitors generally, but I feel that she thought he was a threat coming through the yard at stupid o'clock.

In her twilight years she had failing eyesight and on one occasion nearly bailed up my father upon his return home until he spoke to her and she realised it was him.

She was one of those dogs that you could feel safe around and was at least a deterrent. Although I'd never rely on my dogs for protection, you did feel safe. The current two are useless in terms of a deterrent even unless you are noise sensitive. Yes Abby, I'm looking at you lol.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:58 PM
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Yes Abby, I'm looking at you lol.
My parents are convinced Arnold would protect me if need be, I have my doubts. LOL
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