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Old 01-12-2005, 11:55 AM
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Does lettuce on my hamburger make me a sort of vegetarian?

I love bulls too, they are so cute, especially right next to the gravy and mash potatoes

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Old 01-12-2005, 12:01 PM
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Oh, Chaz - that's probably a steer or heifer next to the potatoes . . .

The lettuce makes you an omnivore, silly man! Behave, or we'll sic Saje on you to give you a lecture on vegetarianism.

What are we going to do with you?
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:08 PM
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Well at least I didn't post in that Personal Question thread.

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What, you're not interested in pectoral implants? They're becoming more and more popular, you know.

Okay, back to dog food . . .
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:27 PM
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Ohhh, this is a hot subject. I have a ISSR Shiloh Shepherd. I want to say right now that I wouldn't feed the same to a small toy dog. My mother always told me we are what we eat. Could you eat just plain kibble (no matter how "good" it is) and stay healthy, for lets say 10 years? I really don't think so. I did MUCH research BEFORE even getting a dog. This is what I feed my dog.

Eagle pack kibble (about 1 to 1 1/2 cups per feeding, she eats twice a day)
cooked fresh meat (1 to 1 1/2 cups per feeding) chicken, turkey, fillet mignon, salmon, eggs, duck, etc...
fresh cooked veggies (1/2 cup per feeding) broccoli is her favorite, but very gasous, lol.
starches (1/2 cup to 1 cup per feeding) potatoes, rice, noodles (NO BUTTER ADDED)
1 heaping tsp yogurt (once a day)
1 heaping tsp cottage cheese (once a day)

The only thing I give raw is that tip of the chicken wing that we cannot eat. This little bit (not the big boney part). The cartilage will turn to gel in the dogs stomach, and help fight the pain of Pano.

I also give a raw bone about every 3 days. This bone is BIG, so she doesn't swallow it, but eats the marrow from it.

My dog was breed to be on this diet. PLEASE ask your vet or breeder BEFORE going on such a diet. My dog is the picture of health, and has never needed to go on any suppliments, and while others from her litter have had problems with Pano mine has not. Mine is the only one (except for the breeder who kept one, and that dog is fed the same way, except she feeds all her meat raw, with no Pano problems either) without Pano problems.

Food you should never give your dog. Onions, tomatoes, grapes, raisins, chocolate.

These foods cause BIG problems in dogs. Do the reaserch if you don't believe me. I think there were a few more, but I can't remember right now.

I also feed fresh fruit. She thinks mango is marvelous!

We wouldn't be healthy if we just ate one food all the time. Wolves (all dogs come from this race) don't just eat one food in the wild either. A varied diet is the best. Again, PLEASE ASK YOUR VET OR BREEDER FIRST.
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Old 01-12-2005, 02:50 PM
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I'm here! I'm ready to, um, sic.



(Actually, I don't want to be a preachy veg-head!)
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Originally Posted by Katysdog
Ohhh, this is a hot subject. I have a ISSR Shiloh Shepherd. I want to say right now that I wouldn't feed the same to a small toy dog. My mother always told me we are what we eat. Could you eat just plain kibble (no matter how "good" it is) and stay healthy, for lets say 10 years? I really don't think so. I did MUCH research BEFORE even getting a dog. This is what I feed my dog.

Eagle pack kibble (about 1 to 1 1/2 cups per feeding, she eats twice a day)
cooked fresh meat (1 to 1 1/2 cups per feeding) chicken, turkey, fillet mignon, salmon, eggs, duck, etc...
fresh cooked veggies (1/2 cup per feeding) broccoli is her favorite, but very gasous, lol.
starches (1/2 cup to 1 cup per feeding) potatoes, rice, noodles (NO BUTTER ADDED)
1 heaping tsp yogurt (once a day)
1 heaping tsp cottage cheese (once a day)

The only thing I give raw is that tip of the chicken wing that we cannot eat. This little bit (not the big boney part). The cartilage will turn to gel in the dogs stomach, and help fight the pain of Pano.

I also give a raw bone about every 3 days. This bone is BIG, so she doesn't swallow it, but eats the marrow from it.

My dog was breed to be on this diet. PLEASE ask your vet or breeder BEFORE going on such a diet. My dog is the picture of health, and has never needed to go on any suppliments, and while others from her litter have had problems with Pano mine has not. Mine is the only one (except for the breeder who kept one, and that dog is fed the same way, except she feeds all her meat raw, with no Pano problems either) without Pano problems.

Food you should never give your dog. Onions, tomatoes, grapes, raisins, chocolate.

These foods cause BIG problems in dogs. Do the reaserch if you don't believe me. I think there were a few more, but I can't remember right now.

I also feed fresh fruit. She thinks mango is marvelous!

We wouldn't be healthy if we just ate one food all the time. Wolves (all dogs come from this race) don't just eat one food in the wild either. A varied diet is the best. Again, PLEASE ASK YOUR VET OR BREEDER FIRST.
That makes a lot of sense; and I'll take your word on the "don't" list. I wish someone would complile a much more comprehensive "don't" list; I find those more useful than the "do" list
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:56 PM
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The "Don't List" Katysdog posted is good, except that tomatoes aren't a no-no. They're actually good for dogs, especially cooked.

If you think about it, wolves in the wild eat the same foods all the time, they just don't eat them all at once; they generally have a one-item menu per meal, plus whatever is partially disgested in the stomach of their quarry.

The legitimately high quality kibbles contain a variety of the foods, and most of us give our dogs the occasional appropriate (and sometimes not-so-appropriate, lol) leftovers and tidbits.

Unfortunately most vets in the United States are babes in the woods when it comes to nutrition, so your best source of information is doing the research - or due diligence as we call it in my trade.

Just please don't let your dog eat Twinkies or Moon Pies!
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:19 PM
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I hope tomatoes are ok because thats my dobes favorite snack ! He has a thing for salad too.
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Old 01-13-2005, 12:42 PM
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Would you believe my Monster Girls love raw cabbage - especially the heart? Purdue, my First Shepherd, loved tomatoes, especially cherry tomatoes. So does my Dad. Dad planted them every spring, and every spring, Purdue would pick them and eat them as soon as they got ripe. Never the green ones. He waited until they were ripe. We always had plenty of seedlings the next year - all we had to do was go out and dig them up from the yard . . . lol. And Purdue lived and active and mischievious life and made it past his 15th birthday in good health except for some arthritis in his neck.

And have you ever seen a dog that DIDN'T like anything resembling spaghetti sauce or pizza?
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