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Old 02-05-2006, 12:02 PM
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Hi I am new to this forum but I wanted to ask if anyone knows and could maybe help me. My dog has 4 and half week old puppies last week I started them on puppy chow, solid foods. Mamma (star) is still cleaning up there poops and so on I also knowing her........is eating left overs of the chow which let me tell you maybe the rim of the plate so she is not getting much there but when she eats there poops. Well seems since I have put the dogs on the chow she has had the runs bad. I didnt think anything at first, she eats cat food once in while when she gets into it and she has runs but they go away. This has been going on for a week now since I have had the puppies on chow..........Thing is that it is not getting better it is getting worse, it is now watery. She is not losing wieght coat shiny, acually she is gaining and even vet said she looks good for a nursing mom not to thin (you know how they lose some wieght look all skinny) She is not acting sick. I amm just getting worried now. I am going to take her down and ask the vet tomorrow.......(ofcourse today being sunday) I dont know is this normal. Unfortanatly the puppys have bad fleas too and she cleans them. I cant do anything being there so young. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas of maybe what I could feed her to stop the runs or help. Like a baby or us toast rice you know a brat diet? She has is eating just fine, is active, and as I said I am going to take her to our vet tomorrow. We are so lucky we have a wonderful vet any advice would be much appreciated. Thankyou
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Old 02-05-2006, 03:42 PM
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Just what brand of food are you feeding? Maybe feeding something of higher quality would already solve the problem.

As for the fleas - there is absolutely no reason to let the pups suffer from flea bites because they are too young! Fleas spend about 10% of their time actually on dogs, for the remaining time they hide in the environment.

You can give your puppies a bath just with a regular, mild shampoo and wash off/drown the fleas, vacuum and wash all the bedding in hot water daily. Use diatomaceous earth (food grade only) to sprinkle under/around the nest area. Buy a flea comb and thoroughly groom mom and puppies every day. Spray a weak solution of tea tree oil or essential oil of lavender on the underside of bedding (away from the skin).
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Old 02-05-2006, 04:38 PM
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when i rescued a litter of kittens they were covered with fleas teh vet told me to use dawn unconcentrated dish soap to get them off and that it was safe for them i would give the mom a bath with the same stuff the mom and pups can get realy sick from the fleas and as mordy said mayber a better quality food???
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Old 02-05-2006, 04:55 PM
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I agree with the others, 1. Mom doesn't need to clean up after them anymore, stop that asap 2. I would put puppies and Mom on a good food and most importantly 3. GET rid of the fleas!!!!! Fleas will kill a puppy/kitten that young very fast, no you can't use the heavy duty flea shampoos on them, but dish detergent as one poster mentioned is fine.

I have fostered 10 day old kittens and older and if I even "thought" they had a flea, they got de flea'd pronto by having a bath.
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Old 02-05-2006, 05:31 PM
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I had fleas on pups a long time ago... Clean up everything !! I got a "nit " comb dipped in mild soapy water and worked on each pup several times a day. The only safe thing back then ( if it was safe! ) was a puppy powder. I used it very sparingly...and brushed the coats afterwards so Mom wouldn't lick it. As for the feeding... they should be separated from the Mom when you feed ..don't leave any leftover food down ! If the Mom has/had fleas , she could have a tape worm. Stool sample time for all!!!!!
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:56 PM
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Thankyou all My daughter has been using a nit comb on them and I clean and wash there bedding daily have too..........I did not know about the dish soap this is my first and last litter so I am still learning.................So it is okay to give them baths....and her food is the same I hve been feeding her since I have had her......My daughter talked to a lady that worked for a vet and she said it is normal for her and she checked her out and said she is fine...........Still having my vet check her out.....but thankyou so much for the advice on the dish soap I kept hearing from everyone (know it alls) NO you cant bath them use anything on them..............So my daughter has been combing through them every day.....it is not bad but you have a few they have many............We well continue to do this as well as give them a bath with the dawn, and as I said I change out there bedding daily ..Thankyou so much for your help on this prob. I am sure I well be asking other questions in future............U all been a big help here....... I just over worry she is my babygirl...............
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Old 02-06-2006, 02:10 AM
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it sounds like it might have parasites like worms that are causing the diarreah... but i'm not an expert on that. might want to have them check just to be on the safe side
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:14 AM
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First get rid of those fleas. Take the mother and pups to the vet tell the vet you want medicine to remove tapeworms, because your dogs are probably infected with them. Then have a fecal of the mother done, she might need another worm medicine for other worms. The puppies should be dewormed too.
Tapeworms come from a dog swallowing an infected flea, with the mother licking and swallowing fleas from the pups, I bet she has them.

Also tell the vet you want the mother treated with a topical flea killer, such as frontline. Then have someone bomb your house while you have all the animals out of the house. Make sure you stay away long enough and air out the house well before returning.

The puppies can be washed with dawn dish washing liquid as it will kill fleas, but this will only help a small amount. The mother should be treated with a safer flea product as I mentioned above, such as frontline. This will kill any fleas that jump on her, and will help the pups too since fleas jump back and forth.
If you bathe the puppies you should first squirt a little "dawn" in your hands and rub it around the anus and around the ears (careful not near eyes), This will help prevent the fleas from running into the ears and anus. And hopefully more will be killed during the bath.

And with puppies at 4 1/2 weeks, the mother should not be eating the feces anymore, this should be your job to clean up after them now.

Keep washing the bedding frequently too.

I really hope you follow up on all this as it is not healthy for the animals.

Please let us know the outcome.
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:48 PM
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First get rid of those fleas. Take the mother and pups to the vet tell the vet you want medicine to remove tapeworms, because your dogs are probably infected with them. Then have a fecal of the mother done, she might need another worm medicine for other worms. The puppies should be dewormed too.
Tapeworms come from a dog swallowing an infected flea, with the mother licking and swallowing fleas from the pups, I bet she has them.

Also tell the vet you want the mother treated with a topical flea killer, such as frontline. Then have someone bomb your house while you have all the animals out of the house. Make sure you stay away long enough and air out the house well before returning.

The puppies can be washed with dawn dish washing liquid as it will kill fleas, but this will only help a small amount. The mother should be treated with a safer flea product as I mentioned above, such as frontline. This will kill any fleas that jump on her, and will help the pups too since fleas jump back and forth.
If you bathe the puppies you should first squirt a little "dawn" in your hands and rub it around the anus and around the ears (careful not near eyes), This will help prevent the fleas from running into the ears and anus. And hopefully more will be killed during the bath.

And with puppies at 4 1/2 weeks, the mother should not be eating the feces anymore, this should be your job to clean up after them now.

Keep washing the bedding frequently too.

I really hope you follow up on all this as it is not healthy for the animals.

Please let us know the outcome.
Julie.

thankyou I well thankgoodness though I dont have carpet and she is not cleaning up after them last day or so and her diareha seems allot better today..........I have used frontlline on my dogs and cats and it did no good I am going to have to get some advantage was not sure I could use it on her nursing and all we did wash all the pups today and again comb them out. I am taking them all to vet when they hit there six weeks before they go to new homes for de worming and there first shots. Also because of the messes I do there bedding daily just because of the mess. I well let you know and thankyou again for all your advice here.it really helped allot
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:51 AM
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ladydi, please be aware that these puppies will not be ready to go to new homes before they are at least 8 weeks old.

otherwise they will miss critical socialization and will not learn proper "puppy manners" from their mom and littermates, which can make life extremely difficult for the new owners.
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