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Old 11-22-2012, 09:10 PM
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A lot of folks I know have a steady little .22 caliber for home defense, as they're lightweight, easy to fire and also enjoyable to take to the range for hobby shooting. It would be my gun of choice if I could get away with legally having it unlocked in my home. :P
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:19 PM
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A lot of folks I know have a steady little .22 caliber for home defense, as they're lightweight, easy to fire and also enjoyable to take to the range for hobby shooting. It would be my gun of choice if I could get away with legally having it unlocked in my home. :P
A .22 is not a weapon I'd advise for home/personal defense. If you're shooting at someone - in fear of your life -your intent should be to kill them. Period. My personal suggestion for home defense is a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with rounds appropriate for the environment you live in. For personal carry it's whatever gun is comfortable and simple for you to use under stress and lethal enough for you to finish the job in a small burst.

Shooting yet not killing an intruder/attacker can lead to legal complications that no one should have to deal with. So remember:

Dead people have a hard time telling their side of the story.

They also have a hard time filing lawsuits about their pain and suffering.


Your end goal with firing a gun at a person should be two things -
Surviving the encounter and the act being declared justifiable homicide.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:26 PM
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A .22 is not a weapon I'd advise for home/personal defense. If you're shooting at someone - in fear of your life -your intent should be to kill them. Period. My personal suggestion for home defense is a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with rounds appropriate for the environment you live in. For personal carry it's whatever gun is comfortable and simple for you to use under stress and lethal enough for you to finish the job in a small burst.

Shooting yet not killing an intruder/attacker can lead to legal complications that no one should have to deal with. So remember:

Dead people have a hard time telling their side of the story.

They also have a hard time filing lawsuits about their pain and suffering.


Your end goal with firing a gun at a person should be two things -
Surviving the encounter and the act being declared justifiable homicide.
This.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:28 PM
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A .22 is not a weapon I'd advise for home/personal defense. If you're shooting at someone - in fear of your life -your intent should be to kill them. Period. My personal suggestion for home defense is a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with rounds appropriate for the environment you live in. For personal carry it's whatever gun is comfortable and simple for you to use under stress and lethal enough for you to finish the job in a small burst.

Shooting yet not killing an intruder/attacker can lead to legal complications that no one should have to deal with. So remember:

Dead people have a hard time telling their side of the story.

They also have a hard time filing lawsuits about their pain and suffering.


Your end goal with firing a gun at a person should be two things -
Surviving the encounter and the act being declared justifiable homicide.
While that does make sense, the reasoning most folks I know have a .22 is that they cannot see themselves justifiably killing someone.

I know I'd have a much better time psychologically by simply injuring someone, despite the lawsuit that may occur. I guess it would depend on the severity of the situation I'd find myself in, though.

The culture here is quite different. :P
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:39 PM
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A .22 is not a weapon I'd advise for home/personal defense. If you're shooting at someone - in fear of your life -your intent should be to kill them. Period. My personal suggestion for home defense is a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with rounds appropriate for the environment you live in. For personal carry it's whatever gun is comfortable and simple for you to use under stress and lethal enough for you to finish the job in a small burst.

Shooting yet not killing an intruder/attacker can lead to legal complications that no one should have to deal with. So remember:

Dead people have a hard time telling their side of the story.

They also have a hard time filing lawsuits about their pain and suffering.


Your end goal with firing a gun at a person should be two things -
Surviving the encounter and the act being declared justifiable homicide.
I agree 100000000%. Ask any policeman or military person...expert. They'll agree. Shoot to Kill. ALWAYS... if you're going to shoot a gun at someone. Absolutely. It's incredibly dangerous to just injure a perpetrator who breaks into your house or is violent. If someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night, in my mind, it's me or them. Period. No middle ground there.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:41 PM
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:52 PM
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Folks I know are quite misinformed then! This wouldn't surprise me.

Around these parts, you cannot keep a gun in your home without a PAL (which I do have) and even then, it has to be locked three different ways. So much for self defense.
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Your gun control is much more intense than ours, I believe.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:26 PM
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P9R.

It's the one the Hungarian police use. 9mm round. It's sooo awesomely calibrated that when you shoot the brass all lands within a 4 inch square pile of each other when they're ejected.

I don't have a handgun for defense because I don't think I can bring myself to actually shoot at someone. But I've shot a lot of handguns. Of them all, the P9R is my favorite. It was really easy to load, easy to shoot, barely had a kick, and of all I've tried it was the easiest to get a nice grouping on the target.



If you want a revolver, the m1895 Nagant is pretty dang awesome and sometimes you can get one for about $100. They're safer than other revolvers as far as not getting burned by vented gas from the cylinder. The only drawback is the ammo is expensive but you run into that problem with any firearm.

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Old 11-22-2012, 10:28 PM
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Your gun control is much more intense than ours, I believe.
Your state is awesome, because you can have fully automatic firearms but you can't pump your own gas.
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