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Old 11-17-2012, 10:07 AM
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Yes, and Linds, I haven't seen it yet but it's not shocking. Some of the meanest people I know are "purely positive" trainers, it's a really confusing an upsetting reality.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:23 AM
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This is the first I've heard of it but now I'm kind of afraid to go on fb since I haven't been on in a few days. As the survivor of a suicide attempt (years ago) and someone who lost a loved one to suicide I find it beyond repulsive that anyone would joke or be cruel about something like that. Regardless of how I feel about his training methods I'm so sorry that CM went through that, am thankful that he was not successful, and hope that he never has to face hopelessness like that again.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:15 PM
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I've certainly met some "positive" trainers who only have only extended that courtesy to their dogs, and were vicious people. Now, I've met some very mean traditional trainers as well, but anyways I don't think that's the point here.

I am sad to see he felt he had no other way. I can't help but feeling that maybe he had personal confliction with his training methods, and it caused emotional stress... I mean, I know when I have gotten frustrated with a dog and do something like scream at them or scruff them or whatever, it actually makes me very angry with myself for the rest of the week. Imagine being around so many dogs who are afraid of you because of what you did, having it filmed, dealing with the stress of celebrity status and the massive criticism he has gotten. Must have been overwhelming.

With that said, I don't excuse his past. I just hope he can find a way to get on with the future, in a healthy, aggression-free way.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:24 PM
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Apparently, one month after Daddy passed away, his wife told him she was leaving him. That's hard. Loosing two great loves like that so close together, it would drive anyone over the roof.
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. I can't help but feeling that maybe he had personal confliction with his training methods, and it caused emotional stress... I mean, I know when I have gotten frustrated with a dog and do something like scream at them or scruff them or whatever, it actually makes me very angry with myself for the rest of the week. Imagine being around so many dogs who are afraid of you because of what you did, having it filmed, dealing with the stress of celebrity status and the massive criticism he has gotten. Must have been overwhelming.

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I often wonder how that weighs on certain trainers.

I mean, I know many who see dogs as a lesser beast, stock if you will, but he truly seems to love dogs and yet he treats them the way he does? It confuses me and makes me wonder if he's ever frustrated about the fact he could use so much more of positive training and benefit equally.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:10 PM
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Sad but I hope him opening up and sharing his story helps someone. He has quite the following. Why anyone would poke fun at suicide is beyond me
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Regardless of what I think about his training methods, I find this very sad and disheartening. He's still a Human Being, and it's far from funny in any way.
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If it's true, I am sincerely glad he failed.

However, with the timing, new show, etc., the controversy and scrutiny his methods have been under, I have to wonder if it really happened . . .

Whatever, I hope some good comes from the story, somehow.
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I often wonder how that weighs on certain trainers.

I mean, I know many who see dogs as a lesser beast, stock if you will, but he truly seems to love dogs and yet he treats them the way he does? It confuses me and makes me wonder if he's ever frustrated about the fact he could use so much more of positive training and benefit equally.
I also wonder if his methods are entirely his own? I remember seeing one episode where he tried clicker training, and it was supposedly one of his lowest rated episodes. Do you suppose NatGeo pushed him to go more extreme, because the episodes with dog bites and highly aggressive dogs are more popular? Who knows.

Again, not defending his methods, just wondering if there is more to this story.
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Maybe latent self-destructive urges are behind alpha rolling large dogs?

The skeptic in me wonders that he's telling this story just as he's about to launch a new TV show.

I have a difficult time taking anything he says at face value.

I was thinking this too. That situation isn't something anyone should wish anyone to be in. But it's old news. It's from back in 2010 and just NOW he is talking about it. I DO think that is weird timing especially since he has that new show coming out.



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I often wonder how that weighs on certain trainers.

I mean, I know many who see dogs as a lesser beast, stock if you will, but he truly seems to love dogs and yet he treats them the way he does? It confuses me and makes me wonder if he's ever frustrated about the fact he could use so much more of positive training and benefit equally.
Honestly I've always thought he really cares about dogs. I've always wondered if maybe he does know there is a better way to train dogs but he's just got such an ego problem and is so deep with his training methods that he's afraid to come out and say 'hey... I was wrong here's a better way!'.

If he ever changed his training ways I'd probably watch some of his stuff. I like how he DOES seem to care about the dogs and seems like a decent guy. A lot of training stuff I've watched I always get the vibe of 'ok this is how to train subject #43847593' and I don't get that from him.
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