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Old 11-14-2012, 05:13 PM
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nope, i'm an obstinate ass. i 'm worse in real life because i have command presence. so when some bag (w/ which one douches) starts spouting nonsense ranging from BSL misinformation, purebread doodles or similar crap, i utilize my command presence & my manner of speaking that makes everyone in the immediate vicinity realize that person is an UTTER moron.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:17 PM
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It depends, for me, although I do err on the side of keeping my mouth shut. My assistant manager and I frequently vent about obnoxious dogs and their owners getting mad at our reactive ones. However, for example when my boyfriend's friend was saying how his uncle had two aggressive (as in had attacked other dogs to the point of doing them serious harm) Akitas but they knew he was boss etc, some situations you just smile and nod.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:20 PM
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It depends, for me, although I do err on the side of keeping my mouth shut. My assistant manager and I frequently vent about obnoxious dogs and their owners getting mad at our reactive ones. However, for example when my boyfriend's friend was saying how his uncle had two aggressive (as in had attacked other dogs to the point of doing them serious harm) Akitas but they knew he was boss etc, some situations you just smile and nod.
see i use those situations to teach (rudely) legal liability & stupidity of the person in question, but i do it in a way that sounds like i'm not trying to be insulting.
as rude as i can be here, i'm a real a-hole in person.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:11 PM
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I dread talking about certain dog stuff in real life unless it's with people I'm very comfortable with. People can become easily defensive so I have to be careful to make sure I it's very obviously MY opinion. Breeding and training are usually the big ones I dread. Things like food or "these breeds are aggressive" type situations I can usually hold my own in very well since you can easily get people to change open mind (or at least be less sure of themselves) with common sense and keeping it simple. If you ask most people if canines (like wolves) are supposed to eat meat they'll say yes, then show them the ingredients in Pedigree or Purina and show them that it's mainly corn and they get it. They might not care, but at least they get it. The only time that fails is when they get to bust out "but my vet said..." and they never believe that you could know more about food than the vet.
With dangerous breed BS I can easily bring up a whole bunch of friendly pit bulls I know (and pictures from the forum) and be 100% sure I've met more than them at the shelters I've volunteered at. I can also bring their attention to aggressive dogs they know that are not pit bulls (actually works quite well, people start giving out a laundry list off aggressive dogs they know, none of which are pit bulls). I can talk about how being bred for fighting might make them dog aggressive but not human aggressive. I can talk about how often people mistake other breeds for pit bulls. I have a lot to say and they usually just have a rumor.


But with breeding, it's hard to convince someone that the breeder they bought their dog from, who loved and cared for the puppies and is super nice and who had super nice dogs, is hurting dogdom. The only way you can get through to those people is focus on health testing and temperament testing (which is my way of describing titles), though sometimes they think that since the parents were nice when they met them that's enough of a temperament test. You can usually get them on health testing though.

With training it's really hard because you're pretty much asking people to give up everything they've ever known about dogs and to admit they've pretty much been hurting their dogs for years. So people don't like to give up on that. That's where I really stick to the "I know plenty of dogs trained without force that are extremely well behaved. I know people who have gotten rid of their dogs aggression without force. I know....etc." If it's actual cases they can't tell me I'm wrong, it did happen. That's one of those things forums are great for, lots of case studies to refer to lol. So even when people come back with "but I know a dog trained with force and he's well behaved" I can say I don't deny it works, I'm just saying it isn't necessary, why hit your dog if you don't have to?


Food I'll never talk about unless specifically asked or they are complaining about something like their dog's odor or allergies, then I'll bring it up as a "oh lower quality foods can cause odor, what do you feed?" or "a lot of dogs are allergic to wheat, what do you feed?". Breeding I'll only bring up if someone mentions that they are looking into getting a dog, I'll usually ask "are you thinking of going to a shelter or breeder?" and if they say breeder I offer to help them look for a good one since most don't do health screening to check for genetic disease and don't do anything to make sure their dogs have the right temperament. I throw all that out there to give them an idea that there are specific things to look for in a breeder and that maybe they do need some help/advice. If they say shelter I bring up petfinder.com. Training I try to avoid at all costs unless asked. Dangerous breed lies is really the only thing I will actively interject about.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:15 PM
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I will discuss them online until the sun goes down. I avoid them IRL because it's harder to get facts across, explain myself correctly, and I end up wanting to smack people by the end of it.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:12 PM
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I actually sound rude online then in person because emotion & intended humor all that isn't transferred across in text like it is person to person. In person I'm actually a very nice way going person BUT (& it's a big BUT) I HATE to be accosted, I do not like, as Hannibal Lector called them the "free range rude" as in bags in which one douches with & impolite ppl.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:20 PM
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My coworkers and I will swap dog stories a lot. But that's about it. I don't give advice ever or really talk about dog training. There was an awkward discussion today where my co-worker who has 2 dogs was talking about how she wants a third. she knows I want a third too so she asked me why. I have no idea how to explain 'Well, Mia has bad knees and Summer is getting older and I need an agility dog.'

So I just said, "I want a bigger dog'.

I told one person I do agility once and got a weird look. Tried to explain it and... yeah. If I say anything about being 'more involved' it's now 'I showed dogs'. Not exactly true but most people will accept that. They know what a dog show is.

Most my co-workers really seem like good dog owners and love to talk about their dogs, show pictures, etc. I can tell the dogs are loved and overall very well cared for.

My friends are well aware of my dog geekery.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:22 PM
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If I think someone will even listen I might say something.

If not I don't say anything. I don't really think I'm avoiding it. I'm just not going to waste my time.

As for Reddit, it's not really a giant river of knowledge XD
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I might discuss dog stuff with people, but I try to keep it very light and not talk about real stuff. Like the day my co-worker told me that "Purina is a good food, but if you have the money you should feed Iams or Science Diet" when I told him that the pup was being fed Purina puppy chow from the breeder but he is being switch to Earthborn here.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:40 PM
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If I think someone will even listen I might say something.

If not I don't say anything. I don't really think I'm avoiding it. I'm just not going to waste my time.

As for Reddit, it's not really a giant river of knowledge XD
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