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Old 01-27-2006, 03:34 PM
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My input:
1. why spend 550 bucks for a cross when you could have one for much less at the shelter?? Doesnt make much sense at all.

2. Mixes and purebreds all have their genetic problems due the gene pool getting smaller with ever litter produced.

3. As for dogs being our employees, sorry but this will continue as long as there is a need for it. Dogs are used for search and rescue, drug warrants, explosives, etc. I am training my dog to do what it was bred to do- retrieve waterfowl. Will he be bred - not likely. But I still advocate to positive and responsible continuation of my breed. When he comes to 24 mos of age I will have him tested for eyes and hips, and not for breeding reasons, but for his general health.

How they allow for mixes to be tested for OFA and CERF I dont know. What sickens me is that I found out yesterday that there is now a mixed breed registry in the United States. This will cause more puppy mills to be built, as this registry will be making lots of money off of the recent craze of mixes.

Sorry, but when someone says they bought a cockapoo or maltipoo, or even a labradoodle from a reputable breeder, I cant do much more than shake my head and wonder to myself if youve given used judgement all.

Sorry, but thats just my opinion.

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Old 01-27-2006, 03:55 PM
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My input:
1. why spend 550 bucks for a cross when you could have one for much less at the shelter?? Doesnt make much sense at all.
Because it was a cross I wanted, was interested in, and wanted to raise from 8 weeks of age.
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2. Mixes and purebreds all have their genetic problems due the gene pool getting smaller with ever litter produced.
I agree...but you see much, much more inbreeding with purebreds.
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3. As for dogs being our employees, sorry but this will continue as long as there is a need for it. Dogs are used for search and rescue, drug warrants, explosives, etc. I am training my dog to do what it was bred to do- retrieve waterfowl. Will he be bred - not likely. But I still advocate to positive and responsible continuation of my breed. When he comes to 24 mos of age I will have him tested for eyes and hips, and not for breeding reasons, but for his general health.
That's exactly what I said, with the exception of a few working dogs. Also I'm not saying that we should erradicate pure breeds, I'm not trying to be a puppy hilter here, only that you should be open minded and not so doggy snobby when it comes to mixes.
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How they allow for mixes to be tested for OFA and CERF I dont know. What sickens me is that I found out yesterday that there is now a mixed breed registry in the United States. This will cause more puppy mills to be built, as this registry will be making lots of money off of the recent craze of mixes.
In your above quote you say that you will have you dog health tested, for general health....
Asking why they are allowed to be tested is just like saying "Oh that mix has HD...oh well, put it down or let it suffer, it's not worth anything anyways"
This is exactly why they allow health testing for mixes...general health. You want to deny a healthy mix dog? Thats just ignorant. If you went to a foreign country, where you were different, people didn't like you, and hadn't seen people like you before, would you expect to be denied medical testing and medical care just because you were different?

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Sorry, but when someone says they bought a cockapoo or maltipoo, or even a labradoodle from a reputable breeder, I cant do much more than shake my head and wonder to myself if youve given used judgement all.

Sorry, but thats just my opinion.

Dixie
Yes I've used good judgement, I went to a reputable breeder, I didn't walk into a petstore, I didn't look for an ad in the paper, or take a puppy from a sign on the side of the road "free dogs" I did research, checked for health, temperment in parents and all the above that the fancy purebred owners do. I got the dog I wanted, and he's wonderful.
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:04 PM
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Oh please don't compare mixed breeds with foreigners... There is no reason to bother with HD testing for mixes because they shouldn't be bred. There are other ways of checking your dog hips and eyes than paying for OFA and CERF certifications.

On a side note, my guess is the parents were purebred, which is why they were tested.

But what can I say, I think it's really sad that people think that 'being interested in a particular mix' is a good reason to deny a needy dog a home, when so many other mutts need a home. And I hope you realize that you were actually lucky to get 'exactly the dog you wanted', because there isn't such thing with mutts. I guess all those breeders have a good and rich life in front of them.

As I said, I am fine when people do it when they don't know better, but when they do, I can't do much more than shake my head and grieve for the 5 million dogs that get killed each year - this is coming from someone who will never again buy any dog from a breeder.
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:10 PM
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Its really hard to find little dogs in the pound around here, there are lots and lots of big dogs but not small, my sister inlaw looked in the pound for months, she did find one, but they wound not let her adopt it because the dog wasnt good with kids.
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:15 PM
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I know that's a problem with shelters, but there are lots of small dogs needing homes in rescues.
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:56 PM
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geez i almost feel ashamed of being a " Fancy Purebred Owner". I dont think it's fair to make statements like that because from what I read on the forums NO ONE here has anything against mutts. It's not about the dogs or what kind they are. It's about the fact that five million dogs get killed in shelters every year because there aren't any homes for them! I dont think anyone should be breeding unless they have a really really really good reason too. And I agree most of the purebred dog breeders out there should not be breeding. But there are some that are responsible. Breeding mixes i'm sorry i just can't say that I find that a responsible thing... if you really love dogs that much than why add to the dogpopulation??

Sure it's a long way from fixing the problem but if EVERYONE out there starting realising it then in the future it might make a difference. I regret buying my puppy from the breeder I bought her from. I love my sheltie to death and I wouldn't trade her for any other dog but had I known the things I learned on here before I wouldn't do it again.

Mutts are awesome! I had one, I loved her, she was the best dog ever! my mom has one now, same thing awesome dog as well! it's not about the dog... it's about the dogpopulation. My next dog will hopefully come from the shelter. It might take a while to find her/him, but if you really want to buy one from a responsible breeder then it would probably take you just as long.
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Old 01-27-2006, 08:35 PM
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People that want Labordoodles why don't they just get American water spaniels or Portugese Water Dog? Don't both breeds have all the qualities of the Lab/poodle mix?
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Old 01-27-2006, 08:48 PM
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People that want Labordoodles why don't they just get American water spaniels or Portugese Water Dog? Don't both breeds have all the qualities of the Lab/poodle mix?
I dont know why people dont get those breeds, you dont see that many of them around, I had never seen one until I went to the Dog show, I dont think there are many breeders around either. As Golden and Labradoodles are the latest fad they are everywhere that is why people get them I guess.
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:57 AM
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Who here owns or loves cockapoo's aka cocker spaniel / poodle mix.

I own one and I love them.
Princess is a cockapoo

I hope there are other cockapoo people on here.

Anna
I knew somebody with one of these that knew all kinds of tricks! Sadly tho this person bred it a couple times to another Cockapoo....something I don't think she should have done. Still that dog was so cute and so smart! She would do all this on command: smile, bang your dead, walk on her hind legs, and more. It was cool. Her name was Idgey. She was named after the girl on Fried Green Tomatoes (Rose's friend). The dog Idgey was bred to was named Tripod because he lost one of his feet.
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Old 01-28-2006, 09:19 AM
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... and is trying to produce quality dogs, and send them to great homes.
Well, if that's you're definition of quality than that's your business and your money. I already said what I have to say about it. You can believe or not believe it. I'm out.
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