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Old 11-07-2012, 06:53 PM
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If I knew it was tax fraud, I most certainly would turn him in. I turned in my nephew's egg donor and her mother for WIC fraud, as the mother was getting the items filled and then giving them to her mother (nephew's grandmother) to use personally. All the while the child never got any of it (food, milk, etc.). My own mother and I were buying everything for him. When I figured out what was going on, I turned them in the proper authorities.

It may be that my brother misspoke, which is why I'm asking if it's even possible as I heard it to be. Every year they get back about $4-6,500 (the number has gone up as they've had more and more kids).
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:02 PM
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My other question is:

What is the ultimate goal? Equality? What is "equality"? Are we talking about social equality? Financial equality? Who decides what is "equal" and what is "still not fair"?
Personally I think all people should have equal human rights. In other words I think all people should be able to marry whoever they want and have the same rights as far as estate and medical decisions.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:13 PM
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Honestly, maybe I'm just annoyingly apathetic. I don't get how people get so worked up about the whole democrat vs republican thing.

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Old 11-07-2012, 08:02 PM
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Speaking of politics, would someone kindly fine all the people leaving campaign signs on the sides of the roads for littering? They look tacky and I don't understand why people put them up. Do they really think a sign will really change the way I vote?
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:27 PM
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This is the problem with entitlements. All they see is the word FREE. They have no idea what that actually entails. All these people say they are getting Obama money, well it isn't actually coming out of HIS pocket.

The people that want the free don't know what it is like to have 50% of their income that they busted their ass for taken away and handed out to people who aren't working.

And I **** sure guarantee I would be a hell of a lot more willing to donate money to causes when the government wasn't deciding for me what kind of corrupt individuals or programs it went to.

AND our gov't does not have a good track record for taking care of programs. America has nearly 9 times the population of Canada. There is a big difference in taking care of 35 million people and taking care of 300 million people.
Actually I do think that many people who use government assistance are very aware that it us not "free."

My dad has been employed only off and on for the past few years. When his unemployment ran out and he had not found a job, my uncle (who he lived with) supported him. When my uncle died in Febuary he had a life insurance policy that was paid out to he and my dad's sister, and she helped dad cover bills while my dad was able to find work only to be laid off again.

Then in August my dad had a medical emergency that landed him in the hospital for over a week to the tune of 32k (this was reduced from 48k because he had no insurance). Dad was sent home with a catheter and later diagnosed with a prostate so enlarged that meds won't help and the only way to get him off the catheter is with surgery that will cost 23k. Without insurance or government assistance the hospital will only do the surgery if dad pays the entire 32k hospital bill and half of the 23k for the surgery. This will not happen-the man owns nothing more than a couple of old cars and the furniture in his rented house.

Our family has been taking care of him where we can. He will be moving in with my aunt in the beginning of the year and since my aunt is running out of insurance money with which to pay his bills DH and I are paying for at least his rent and groceries for the next couple of months. However, we cannot afford to pay the hospital bills even if we pooled our money, short of selling our homes. Dad is too young for Medicare so we have applied for Medicaid (which he is having trouble getting) and a state assistance program.

I know the financial assistance he's applying for isn't "free." DH and I have both worked since we were 16, and we know what it's like to have taxes taken out of our checks. However, dad needs that surgery-he has been getting bladder infections and the catheter keeps getting clogged with calcium deposits, which is very painful and requires medical attention.

I'm not sharing this as some sort of pity party, but sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to keep your head above water-even if that means getting assistance.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:28 PM
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Staci , the last two years you could claim three on you earned income credit for the kids , instead of the two you usually can. For no income it is something like 2500.00 per kid you get back. Next year it will go back down to two child max claim. It is part of the tax stimulas plan Obama put in.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:42 PM
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Actually I do think that many people who use government assistance are very aware that it us not "free."

My dad has been employed only off and on for the past few years. When his unemployment ran out and he had not found a job, my uncle (who he lived with) supported him. When my uncle died in Febuary he had a life insurance policy that was paid out to he and my dad's sister, and she helped dad cover bills while my dad was able to find work only to be laid off again.

Then in August my dad had a medical emergency that landed him in the hospital for over a week to the tune of 32k (this was reduced from 48k because he had no insurance). Dad was sent home with a catheter and later diagnosed with a prostate so enlarged that meds won't help and the only way to get him off the catheter is with surgery that will cost 23k. Without insurance or government assistance the hospital will only do the surgery if dad pays the entire 32k hospital bill and half of the 23k for the surgery. This will not happen-the man owns nothing more than a couple of old cars and the furniture in his rented house.

Our family has been taking care of him where we can. He will be moving in with my aunt in the beginning of the year and since my aunt is running out of insurance money with which to pay his bills DH and I are paying for at least his rent and groceries for the next couple of months. However, we cannot afford to pay the hospital bills even if we pooled our money, short of selling our homes. Dad is too young for Medicare so we have applied for Medicaid (which he is having trouble getting) and a state assistance program.

I know the financial assistance he's applying for isn't "free." DH and I have both worked since we were 16, and we know what it's like to have taxes taken out of our checks. However, dad needs that surgery-he has been getting bladder infections and the catheter keeps getting clogged with calcium deposits, which is very painful and requires medical attention.

I'm not sharing this as some sort of pity party, but sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to keep your head above water-even if that means getting assistance.
I am not entirely against assistance when it is legitimately needed.

I highly doubt that 50% of Americans legitimately NEED public assistance.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:42 PM
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Wait.

So if you have no income.

You fill out a tax return and get 2500.00 for every kid you have?
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:45 PM
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Wait.

So if you have no income.

You fill out a tax return and get 2500.00 for every kid you have?
I seem to remember it being $1,000/child.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:46 PM
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Wait.

So if you have no income.

You fill out a tax return and get 2500.00 for every kid you have?
...soo putting your dog on your taxes as a dependent child..

frowned upon?

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