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Old 10-28-2012, 01:29 PM
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Do you have people in your area who know Morgan and would be understanding that you could visit with the kids? It is awful that anyone would react that way to a child, but as you clearly have seen, it happens. The kids pretty much get a free ride here; my mother was an elementary school teacher and is unfailingly patient with them. It's Halloween - I'm not sure I'd even assume there was something 'different' about a kid who didn't react as we expect. So many kids seem overwhelmed or wound up or stressed.



We had two boys last year or the year before who were at least 16. My mother still politely held out the bowl of full-sized chocolate bars she hands out. One of the boys asked "Is that your dog?" pointing behind her. When she glanced back, they grabbed huge handfuls and ran down the street. A$$holes like that aren't even remotely in the same ballpark as kids who really just need a bit of patience and understanding, obviously.

First time in my life I'd wished Meg were a Mal or something. I'd have opened the door and let her run after them.
Not really the friend we do have is going with us but we are going in her parents neighborhood which is gated and hopefully since there wont be AS many kids it wont be so bad and its mostly older couples so *fingers crossed* if not him and I will hang back at the houses and Bev can go with my friend.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:32 PM
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This will my our first year of having kids come to our door, ever. I am super excited. I have no issues of 16 year old's coming to my door. I will have an issue with 18-20 year old coming to my door, although at that point I am sure we will just invite them it to party. Since we are having a party at our place that night. ha ha

Breeze, I see where you are coming from and I think we need to make a mental note that there are all different kind of people and children in the world and not to judge.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:37 PM
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This will my our first year of having kids come to our door, ever. I am super excited. I have no issues of 16 year old's coming to my door. I will have an issue with 18-20 year old coming to my door, although at that point I am sure we will just invite them it to party. Since we are having a party at our place that night. ha ha

Breeze, I see where you are coming from and I think we need to make a mental note that there are all different kind of people and children in the world and not to judge.

I told Jeremy if someone offers me a beer or something I might not be able to turn it down after that night. 3 kids under 5. Morgan and Bevs seperate issues. Alone.

So far he hasnt been able to get out of working for Halloween since hes the ONLY one that can do it apparently
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:38 PM
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Good grief people! Its friggin***8217; candy. Give it out or not but if you***8217;re going to give it out don***8217;t bitch about *how* it is taken. If its that big of a deal turn the light out and go to a movie.
Halloween is already one of the weirdest cultural phenomenons out there as it is. I mean are we really arguing over how old you have to be or how in or not in costume you have to be to have the ***8220;privilege***8221; of receiving candy?

If people would mind their own kids and their own business....

This sounds way snarkier than I mean it to... Its just seriously... in a nation as privileged as we are where people pass out literally BILLIONS of dollars worth of free candy, its seems a bit... superfluous (?) irrelevant (?) persnickety (?) to worry about whether or not people act sufficiently grateful for it.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:41 PM
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Couldn't you go to like a trunk or treat?

Not saying that your kids shouldn't get to go. But a lot of times those are put on by churches and schools and they're usually a little more understanding.

And I get it. I have aspergers. If I open the door and the kid doesn't even say trick or treat and just holds out a bag I give them candy and it's fine. I had trouble even saying trick or treat when I was little because I didn't want a strangers attention or eye contact.

But if I get a kid who says trick or treat is super enthusiastic and then doesn't say thank you it does come across as rude. They were open enough to do that for candy but not polite enough to say it once they got it.

And around here it isn't odd to see older kids/teens/adults trick or treating. My town is VERY good to the mentally disabled and they all still go trick or treating. I know one guy who is probably in his thirties but still loves to dress up and get candy and talk to people.

Also we buy full candy bars so we hand them out because fingers crossed there will be left overs.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:43 PM
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Couldn't you go to like a trunk or treat?

Not saying that your kids shouldn't get to go. But a lot of times those are put on by churches and schools and they're usually a little more understanding.

And I get it. I have aspergers. If I open the door and the kid doesn't even say trick or treat and just holds out a bag I give them candy and it's fine. I had trouble even saying trick or treat when I was little because I didn't want a strangers attention or eye contact.

But if I get a kid who says trick or treat is super enthusiastic and then doesn't say thank you it does come across as rude. They were open enough to do that for candy but not polite enough to say it once they got it.

And around here it isn't odd to see older kids/teens/adults trick or treating. My town is VERY good to the mentally disabled and they all still go trick or treating. I know one guy who is probably in his thirties but still loves to dress up and get candy and talk to people.

Also we buy full candy bars so we hand them out because fingers crossed there will be left overs.
I tried to talk Bev into it but she wants to go do the "real thing" so we are going to try it. He wouldnt get out of the wagon at the trunk or treat we went to last year though. He jsut sat there and stared.

Morgan will run up and smile but he is nonverbal with strangers.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:47 PM
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I bought rosey a costume, bought a nox of chocolate to hand out..... Then realized its Wednesday and I won't even be home.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:51 PM
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This sounds way snarkier than I mean it to... Its just seriously... in a nation as privileged as we are where people pass out literally BILLIONS of dollars worth of free candy, its seems a bit... superfluous (?) irrelevant (?) persnickety (?) to worry about whether or not people act sufficiently grateful for it.
I think not being grateful for what you have is a HUGE problem in this country. The line has been blurred so bad people can't even list what a necessity is and want is.

This is a holiday where other people willingly give gifts to strangers and it's pretty scary how ungrateful people are for that. It's pretty sad to see how many people don't say please or thank you and are passing it on to their kids. I'm not saying they need to bow down and kiss the candy givers feet but there is a GIANT sense of entitlement in some of the parents and kids where they think they deserve ALL OF THE CANDIES!

Obviously there are kids and people who can't and that's fine but parents and kids DO comment on not getting the candy they want and I think people need to be more polite in that respect too. Maybe they couldn't afford the name brandy candy. Maybe they went trick or treating with their kids earlier and are using that candy since they had absolutely no money to buy candy at all but still wanted their kids to get to go trick or treating and hand out candy.

tl;dr both sides need to be a little more polite and the problem would be solved.

And if someone walks up with an infant we just say we don't have any infant appropriate candy and most of the time the parents are cool.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:56 PM
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See I say Thank You for Morgan and prompt Bev to remember and she says one of the two at least. Shes still working on getting it right if she doesnt have to say Please first LOL. Shes told people Please after being handed something quite a bit and I have to tell her we say the OTHER words you know and she goes OH Thank You!!!

Jess Jeremy was ready to go and everything (even had a costume picked out ) and we find out its weds and they wont let him work the day shift. He HAS to be the one closing
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:10 PM
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I guess my issue is, who decides what ***8220;acting grateful***8221; looks like? If I see a kid out there having fun who maybe forgets the ***8220;thank you***8221; because he***8217;s too busy enjoying the moment, checking out the spooky decorations, who cares?! Its a kid. He***8217;s having fun. Enjoy his enthusiasm and energy vicariously! So what that he didn***8217;t say thank you?
Its not like we***8217;re forced to participate in Halloween.
Don***8217;t like how people act? Don***8217;t participate. Problem solved.

I***8217;m buying candy for my classes to hand out to the special ed kids when they come visit on Wednesday, and donated some good stuff to the trunk o treat at the elementary school.
My kids will go to a couple trunk o treats and then to their friends***8217; neighborhood since those of us who live in the boonies have to drive in to town to play candy nabbing ghouls. They eat less than half of the candy they get and we will donate the rest to the local safe home.
And though they say thank you most of the time, I don***8217;t monitor them that closely since I***8217;m too busy chit chatting with other mom friends and the people we visit.
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