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Old 10-25-2012, 12:37 PM
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You can only hang out with the herding BC people because your dog is not merle
There's a herding person near me with three merles. She's pretty well accepted in that world too =)
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:47 PM
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It's like that with every breed. I own four different breeds and am active in the communities of a few other breeds... There is always a divide. ):
That seems to be true all too often, but I will say that the BC people here I've had the misfortune to meet have been such unmitigated assholes that it's been hard not to project my feelings about them and their attitudes onto the breed at times, even though they're lovely little dogs and I've always found them charming . . . away from those owners.

EDIT: That's "here" as in where I live -- NOT on Chaz!
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:29 PM
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I don't know. If I was a sheep and saw Fiona staring at me with those eyes, I'd move my ASS. You'd think blue eyes on a herding dog would be considered a positive.

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Old 10-25-2012, 03:36 PM
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Wait a second don't Border Collies come in merle? How can you allow merle and not allow blue eyes?
Ditto on the merle thing
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:10 PM
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They allow blue eyes in merles but not in black and whites in most countries, although the BCSA is proposing a change to our standard that would fully accept blue eyes in all colors and a lot of people are upset about that.

Yeah, I like my herding friends and my Dog Scouts friends. They aren't insane... at least not in the same way. Facebook is evil!
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:22 PM
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Yes, I think you should get rid of Fiona and Wesley. Lucky for you they'd be accepted in Canada. Send them up!

Really though who cares about eye colour, if you don't like the blue eyes on a black dog, then don't breed for that. Simple.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:10 PM
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Blue eyed border collies are pretty dangerous. Guess no one ever told you that. You should probably just send Fiona and Wesley to me and then you won't have to worry about it.

It is seriously silly to me that people worry about eye color! It's like everywhere you go in the BC world, there is some big argument about what a BC "should" look like.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:36 PM
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There's a herding person near me with three merles. She's pretty well accepted in that world too =)
Unpossible. Merle dogs are not capable of herding anything. Except dumbballs.
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Unpossible. Merle dogs are not capable of herding anything. Except dumbballs.
Lol the 2 breeders I've contacted that are big big big in the trial world both have merles and are very well accepted...all open level trial dogs.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:47 PM
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Is Wesley a blue BC? I didn't know they came in that color, but then I don't know much about the breed anyway. I do agree with the discrimination toward color though. If it doesn't cause any health problems (you know, like double merles) then what's the big deal with disqualifying colors? I would die for a blue PWC (they call them blueies) but they are considered a very serious fault and though I haven't looked into them a great deal, I'm pretty sure it only has to do with color. The color of the coat also comes with lighter eyes and eye rims, nose, etc and that's a no no. Who frickin cares as long as it's healthy and can do it's job?
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