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Old 10-13-2012, 01:00 PM
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I've seen this mentioned before and wondered your opinions on it.

I think that a lot of times people (on dog forums etc) can be too harsh on people who say they can't afford certain treatments or procedures etc, and are often told that they then need to give the dog up to a rescue who is willing to help, if they can't take care of it, etc.

To me, a family or person who truly CAN'T afford vet care but loves the animal regardless and does their best by it is different from someone who claims they can't afford a vet while they are buying designer clothes, or bar hopping every weekend, or have the latest technologies. Obviously I am not talking about the latter... I think that if you love your pet, you would be willing to part with some of those things in order to take care of it. But sometimes... people just go through hard times! And I don't believe it should automatically be: "well if you can't afford your pet, you need to relinquish it to the rescue" or give it up.

I know that honestly, Jackson would be better off being put to sleep than having to go through the stress of being put into a rescue-type situation, with new people, medical procedures, and all that stuff. He is very very attached to me and I truly don't believe he would be the kind of dog who would do very well in a new situation. I know a lot of people could probably say that, but really, he's sometimes unhealthily attached... but never in a million years would I ever give him up in the first place. I am very lucky that I have the privilege of having the proper money stashed aside for medical emergencies, and if I personally didn't, I have lots of family members who love Jackson too that are willing to help when possible. I am also the kind of owner who will do anything to help him, even if it's a small issue, I don't mind paying money to get him to the vet and get it looked at. I am willing to spend big bucks to make sure he's okay and healthy!

I have seen abandoned animals living on the streets.... starving... looking for their humans. Maybe they won't have the best vet care, or the best food, or an ideal living situation- but I do believe if the animal had a choice, they'd want to stay with their human.

Obviously, I think it's silly to add a NEW pet if you are already in a very tight financial situation. I am waiting to add a second dog until I am a bit more secure financially - while I could swing it right this moment, I am not sure I want to be THAT tight with money yet. So I think if you buy a new puppy, and then claim you can't afford such basic things for it, such as a vet visit, initial vaccines, food, etc... that's just dumb. But I think if you have a 7yr old dog, for example, and have hit unexpected hard times... you shouldn't be judged if you can't take your dog to the vet immediately, etc.

I saw a Dateline show or something a few months ago, where a family who had once lived the high life, was now completely broke and living out of their van with 3 kids AND the family dog. Ideal?? Of course not!! But just because you may be having a year or two slump, doesn't mean you should have to give your dog up forever, when things have the chance to get better again. And I am sure the dog is much happier living that way than in a shelter. There are so many dogs that have NO health care, or food, and live on the streets, or are sitting in cages for years at a shelter or rescue... I think they are better off even with a family who may be underprivileged.

Some of the best kept and well loved dogs I've seen have been from "poor" people and some of the worst treated dogs I've seen have been from "rich" people... so I just don't think automatically being poor makes you a poor choice for an animal, or a bad owner, just as being rich doesn't automatically make you a good choice for a pet.

Just a ramble... opinions welcome.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:07 PM
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I think that expression, for me anyway, applies mostly to people who are looking to buy a NEW pet.
Going out and buying a puppy when you know you won't be able to afford vet care..IMO is totally irresponsible.

But, I certainly don't think every family who has hit dire times should give up their current pets. We make it work, we hustle, we find the money.. is it ideal? No. but that pet has a loving home with people who try to make it work.
At the end of the day, the best situation is a pet in a loving home.

Just like nobody is saying that people hitting hard financial times should give up their kids!
..but they certainly shouldn't be planning on having a baby just because they want one with NO RESPECT for how much babies costs etc.. and just hoping for the best and putting all their cards on blind faith.

Because sometimes things DO happen and sometimes goodness forbid, things don't work out and the money cant be found..then what do you do?
With that dog you've had forever, it's a sad thing and you do what you can.

but with a puppy/animal you just bought.. one must wonder, WHY did you bring him/her home in the first place? Wouldn't this new animal have been better off if someone else had purchased it instead of someone who was going to buy it, wait until something happens and then give it up when it isn't as easily adoptable.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:09 PM
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I get not being able to afford some of the more expensive stuff like emergency surgery or long term medical care.

But if someone is struggling to even get their dog to the vet when it's obvious something is wrong with the dog I do think maybe they shouldn't own a pet.

With all the low cost clinics around here if someone's dog is in pain or sick and they can't afford the $20 to just have the vet look at them I do question if having a pet at that time is the right thing.

My issue that I have MOST of the time is someone will complain about needing something for their dog because the dog is obviously sick or injured and they won't do ANYTHING to help. I get that I'm not in the majority if Yoshi needs money I don't have I have absolutely no problem selling things or shutting off luxuries. My issue is when someone is picking luxuries over an animals life and that's when I usually speak up.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:10 PM
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The way i see it is maby we should apply this rule to having children to those judgemental people huh?

You loose your home and job and live in a van for a couple years. Well lets take HAVE THE KIDS ADOPTED.

Why is it trashy people are aloud to breed like rabbits and spit 7 children out and cannot even afford a bog brush?

People should be concentrating on these people. You do not chuck out A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY BECAUSE OF BAD CIRCUMSTANCES! KID OR DOG.

And people judge the poor person about lack of funds for pets/kids. Why not judge the people that put them in that situation instead?
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:11 PM
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I think that expression, for me anyway, applies mostly to people who are looking to buy a NEW pet.
Going out and buying a puppy when you know you won't be able to afford vet care..IMO is totally irresponsible.

But, I certainly don't think every family who has hit dire times should give up their current pets. We make it work, we hustle, we find the money.. is it ideal? No. but that pet has a loving home with people who try to make it work.
At the end of the day, the best situation is a pet in a loving home.

Just like nobody is saying that people hitting hard financial times should give up their kids!
..but they certainly shouldn't be planning on having a baby just because they want one with NO RESPECT for how much babies costs etc.. and just hoping for the best and putting all their cards on blind faith.

Because sometimes things DO happen and sometimes goodness forbid, things don't work out and the money cant be found..then what do you do?
With that dog you've had forever, it's a sad thing and you do what you can.

but with a puppy/animal you just bought.. one must wonder, WHY did you bring him/her home in the first place? Wouldn't this new animal have been better off if someone else had purchased it instead of someone who was going to buy it, wait until something happens and then give it up when it isn't as easily adoptable.
Absolutely agree! I think if you go out and buy a puppy, and then go on to say how you can't afford anything that a puppy needs... that is just stupidity!
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:17 PM
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Another point of view is rescue pets and poor people.

Alot of rescues will not allow people on benefits or have a low income to adopt an animal.

Surely a home with a low income and management of a health complaint is better then a rescue kennel or a death sentence?

So rescuing a puppy from a pound who had 1 day left before being PTS is better off that way then a person on a low income who cannot afford vet bills IF OR WHEN it gets sick?

That puppy may not get ill for several years. Those several years could have been used living in a POOR family home instead of PTS.

Depends on your point of view i spose
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:28 PM
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I think it also depends on what you mean by "afford a vet."

Afford basic immunizations, necessary preventatives for your area, and reasonable checkups?

Afford minor surgery? <$500? <$1000?

Afford major surgery/illness?

I mean "afford a vet" can--depending on the dog, the area, etc.--range from less than $100 a year to $10k+ if you have something catastrophic happen.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:38 PM
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Depends where you live. If you live on a farm i doubt i would vaccinate my dog unless i knew another was coming to the farm and do it in advance.

In the uk we have the pdsa, which helps pay for your vets bills if your low income. Is there something similar in usa?

So minor injurys/surgery would be possible

but anything major i think would have to PTS. But that also goes for myself. If i broke my leg with no funds. I would keep that broken leg
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To me, affording a vet means doing anything in your power to get that pet to the vet when needed -- be it through selling stuff or borrowing money.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:49 PM
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I think some people get downright illogical about this topic. In an area like where I live, where a normal dog is easily homed, I can see why one might think dogs should only go to homes that can afford the vet. But in places where shelters kill dogs, PUPPIES even, en masse? If you live in one of these areas, I don't care if you don't have a dime to your name, if you want a dog to feed and love and are prepared to make hard decisions should the pup get sick, I think you should go ahead and get one.
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