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Old 09-30-2012, 08:24 PM
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Growing up we always had neutered males. Always. I'm planning on keeping new puppy intact, unless for health reason. I'm already getting grief from my mom who has worked at a vet clinic since the dawn of time.
"All he'll think about is finding a female"
"He'll never be a good dog. His mind will always be somewhere else"
"He'll mark on everything"
"He'll be more aggressive"
I'm sure you've heard them all.

How are intact males different than a neutered male? I really have no idea what to expect.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:26 PM
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They have balls. That's how they're different xD

Really, I think any of the "problems" are really behaviour issues rather than having-balls-issues.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:30 PM
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They have hangy-downs. LOL

They're usually more interested in peein' on stuff and sniffin' stuff than neutered males but that varies enormously between individuals. They do tend to be more huffy, puffy "I'm a big man" than neutered males, but again, depends on the individual dog. I've known intact males that squatted to pee still and were total pushovers with other dogs.

IME the capable dog person rarely finds themselves with a humping, peeing, distracted monster. I doubt you'll notice much at all.

I know enough neutered males that **** on everything, start **** with other males, hump anything that moves, and don't listen worth a ****, to not buy that it's balls that are the problem.
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They have balls. That's how they're different xD

Really, I think any of the "problems" are really behaviour issues rather than having-balls-issues.
Thanks Jess. But he'll be fuzzy so hopefully you won't be able to see them *crosses fingers*
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:32 PM
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I was asking a few friends about this a couple weeks ago...they have intact males and while I have an intact female I haven't done the male thing so was curious. They gave me a weird look and said if I can train a dog with lots of prey dog to call off a deer, or train a terrier to stay in my yard without a fence for a year, or train a birddog to stand down when a loose bird is fluttering in front of her nose, then having an intact male is no big deal. It's just a "matter of training and not taking stupid risks, just like anything else."

But I still don't have one so ya know take that with a grain of salt. I just thought their response was funny
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:33 PM
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Honestly, I don't notice much difference between Jake (snipped) and Blaze (intact). They are two completely different dogs, personality wise, but they both mark just as much.

Let's put it this way, I left Blaze alone to mature naturally. He's 4 now. I haven't found a reason to snip yet.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:38 PM
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Traveler pees on stuff. Though, he doesn't pee on stuff that much more than Kaylee (spayed young) or my old altered young BC. I don't have any issue with training other than stupid boy stuff that's just an younger male regardless of ball status. I notice when his attention is waning he's more likely to go start sniffing and pee on something so if he starts doing that I tend to call training off or reengage him. But again, don't really think that's much to do with the intactness of him.

The biggest difference I've noticed is the need to taste urine at times.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:39 PM
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The only difference I found between intact Bandit and not intact Bandit (he got the big snip at 3) was he no longer got the snot beaten out of him by tons of dogs. The EAT ME sign on his back went away.

He didn't mark. He didn't stray. He wasn't dominant. He could hold his composure around females in heat. He's the same dog now minus two balls.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:40 PM
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After the initial teenager phase.. which is just the hormones and general brattiness that comes with dogs in general around 8+ months. Things even out and the only difference really..will be balls lol everything else is a training issue.

Physically you are likely to notice a difference. Neutered males (IE those neutered young) are lankier then intact males.
Many show folk have intact males (obviously lol) and you don't see a dog show full of marking humping aggressive dogs.. it's all a matter of training.

When there already is a behavioral problem, so many recommend neutering because yea, training CAN be easier with a dog that doesn't have hormones to deal with. BUT that's if the problem crops up in the first place and frankly, it doesn't always help. Hormones/balls or no.. some dogs just are the way they are (like to mark, like to bark etc..) and neutering alone doesn't change them.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:42 PM
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I think its pretty obvious Bandit was left intact for quite awhile. His fur is thick and lush as well as his bone structure is thick.
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